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Wearing socks *is* a social construct

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    Both examples are similar to anapodotons. They include an implicit thesis. Don't shoot yourself in the foot because bullets do way more damage than movies let on, your foot will likely never work right again, and even if it does you'll have endured months of easily avoidable pain and suffering. Don't jump off a cliff because you'll likely die and, even if you survive, you'll have to endure a lifetime of debilitation, pain, and suffering, that could have been easily avoided.

    These are also similar to thought-terminating cliches and tangentially related to mondegreens. Anapodotons can be insidious. Fluent speakers unfamiliar with the phrase can tell there's more to it and, since the general meaning can be implied through context, folks avoid the awkwardness of admitting their ignorance (something we should all be more comfortable with - but that's a separate discussion) and miss out on the nuance of some "common wisdom".

    A bit of common wisdom is that "common sense isn't common". These cultural and psychological quirks manifest in our languages are part of the reason why. Not shooting yourself is a great example because for most people this is an obviously stupid thing to do and, yet, hundreds of people accidentally kill themselves via negligent discharge every year and thousands more are maimed. How often do we believe "don't shoot yourself" is sufficient advice when, in reality, proper safety training is required to keep that person alive? How often do those hearing the common wisdom believe they know all they need for that cliche to work its magic?

    There's a lot of value in being aware of these linguistic traps and avoiding them when we think to do so. Like being the child that chooses to stop perpetuating generational trauma and abuse. We can choose better words, better phrases, and stop expecting that other people already know what we take for granted.

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    Was kinda dumb of you to write all that

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      Was kinda dumb of you to write all that

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      Nuh uh. 😝

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        "I'll socially construct the back of my hand upside your head you little shit."

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        lol this is amazing

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          Yeah, fuck socks! They don't own me!

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          Exactly! "Boys" socks, "girls" socks, no - my socks.

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            "You've made a correct observation, now please provide an argument why the social construct of x should not be adhered to. X is dumb and I don't wanna is not sufficient."

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            "No, you justify your position."

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              Having a parent who clothes and feeds you is a social construct too.
              Funny how people think that "social construct" means that something is bad or should be dismissed when none of us would be here without social constructs.

              At least this time the argument is being made by the only age group where I would give them a pass for being stupid. Unless that kid is past the age of 12, that is.

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              I think the point is the fact it's a social construct on its own is neither pro or against the thing itself, rather that it can/should be able to be questioned.

              Yes wearing socks is a social construct, but it provides inherent benefits such as reducing the smell produced by your feet and lingering in the shoes. It also helps protect your feet further in some ways then just a shoe alone would.

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                Parents feeding their kids is also a social construct. The Ancients tossed their kids in the salt mines quite early.

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                  If the sock seams bother you ,you either wear your socks or shoes, or both too tight

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                  Or I'm autistic and things that don't bother most people do bother me. I almost always size up and go baggy.

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                  • derfunkatron@lemmy.worldD [email protected]

                    You know, we’re living in a society! We’re supposed to act in a civilized way!

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                    I use that line all the time lol

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                      Socks serve a practical purpose when combined with shoes. They prevent rubbing (blisters) and they keep the skin cells and oils from your feet from the insides of your shoes.

                      Shoes serve a practical purpose in that they protect your feet from rocks, glass, and hot pavement. Did our ancestors need shoes? No. But humans have made our environments less friendly to bare feet

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                      The natural world is pretty unfriendly to bare feet, too.

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                        with this heat wave, wearing any clothes is also a social construct.

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                          Nuh uh. 😝

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                          Sorry, we've already established that's not a valid argument.

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                            The natural world is pretty unfriendly to bare feet, too.

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                            Feet will naturally build up thick, tough, resilient calluses in natural environments. There have been some interesting studies done on this topic with indigenous groups.

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                              with this heat wave, wearing any clothes is also a social construct.

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                              More like: not wearing bedouin robes:
                              https://english.elpais.com/culture/2022-08-16/the-bedouin-lesson-a-scientific-study-proves-robes-are-the-best-garment-to-wear-in-the-desert-heat.html

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                                Parents feeding their kids is also a social construct. The Ancients tossed their kids in the salt mines quite early.

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                                The children yearn for the mines

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                                  Yup, if you can manage to live off the grid and not have to worry about social constructs again, go for it, though I certainly wouldn't recommend it.

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                                  You would still be carrying the social constructs you have internalized throughout your life. You probably have the ability to think logically, and refer to things by their names, but logical thinking and language are also social constructs.

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                                    I think the point is the fact it's a social construct on its own is neither pro or against the thing itself, rather that it can/should be able to be questioned.

                                    Yes wearing socks is a social construct, but it provides inherent benefits such as reducing the smell produced by your feet and lingering in the shoes. It also helps protect your feet further in some ways then just a shoe alone would.

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                                    Sure, things should be questioned, but 9 out of 10 times where I have seen someone bring up social construct as an argument it has always been negative, always used to dismiss the so-called social construct. I can't really recall a single time where it has been used by people who weren't going through a rebellious phase where it's all about being a contrarian and rarely about being genuinely curious about the validity of this and that social construct. Sometimes I have also seen things that are objectively not social constructs being labeled social constructs so I have a hard time taking it seriously when it's brought up.

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                                      You would still be carrying the social constructs you have internalized throughout your life. You probably have the ability to think logically, and refer to things by their names, but logical thinking and language are also social constructs.

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                                      Yeah, but nobody minds social constructs they like.

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                                        I think the point is the fact it's a social construct on its own is neither pro or against the thing itself, rather that it can/should be able to be questioned.

                                        Yes wearing socks is a social construct, but it provides inherent benefits such as reducing the smell produced by your feet and lingering in the shoes. It also helps protect your feet further in some ways then just a shoe alone would.

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                                        Yeah often "x is a social construct" as an argument means "you're treating it as if its immutable and a given"

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                                          The children yearn for the mines

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                                          You see, in this world there's two kinds of children, my friend: Those with Playstation 5s and those who dig.

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