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    Only once. Tobacco is highly poisonous. The tobacco from a cigarette butt kan kill a child.

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    One time when I was a drunk dumb teen I ate half a cigarette and I didn't die. Didn't even feel anything. I hear that thing about a cig butt killing a child a lot, I wonder if anyone has a source?

    Disclaimer: it's not a good idea either way

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      I'm trying not to imagine how awful that must smell.

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      • D [email protected]

        One time when I was a drunk dumb teen I ate half a cigarette and I didn't die. Didn't even feel anything. I hear that thing about a cig butt killing a child a lot, I wonder if anyone has a source?

        Disclaimer: it's not a good idea either way

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        This CDC article about a study from the 90s looked at 90 children who had ingested cigarette butts. Although some had to be hospitalized, all recovered fully within 12 hours.

        https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/00046181.htm

        So, yeah, definitely not a good idea.

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          I'm trying not to imagine how awful that must smell.

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          Unburned tobacco smells lovely. Walk into a cigar shop's humidor to learn what I mean.

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          • T [email protected]

            Only once. Tobacco is highly poisonous. The tobacco from a cigarette butt kan kill a child.

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            "Standard textbooks, databases, and safety sheets consistently state that the lethal dose of nicotine for adults is 60 mg or less (30–60 mg), but there is overwhelming data indicating that more than 500 mg of oral nicotine is required to kill an adult.[7]" -- Source
            "The average cigarette contains about 10 to 12 mg of nicotine. " -- Source
            I guess it depends on your definition of "cigarette butt".

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            • D [email protected]

              One time when I was a drunk dumb teen I ate half a cigarette and I didn't die. Didn't even feel anything. I hear that thing about a cig butt killing a child a lot, I wonder if anyone has a source?

              Disclaimer: it's not a good idea either way

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              So I just did a bit of research on it and according to Wikipedia and several journals it seems to be definitely possible for someone to die from nicotine poisoning. The wiki article cites two child deaths. I also found at least one article where nicotine poisoning was deemed the cause of death. Warning, it does contain shots of ther person's dissected esophagus and their stomach contents. There's a NLM journal article that pops up on a child committing suicide by nicotine ingestion, but the article was missing. So I can say it definitely has happened. I just couldnt find any readily available mortality studies showing how often it happens.

              As for anecdotal evidence, I had a client with Pica, who would eat cigarette butts among other things and be vomiting all night.

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              • capt_wolf@lemmy.worldC [email protected]

                So I just did a bit of research on it and according to Wikipedia and several journals it seems to be definitely possible for someone to die from nicotine poisoning. The wiki article cites two child deaths. I also found at least one article where nicotine poisoning was deemed the cause of death. Warning, it does contain shots of ther person's dissected esophagus and their stomach contents. There's a NLM journal article that pops up on a child committing suicide by nicotine ingestion, but the article was missing. So I can say it definitely has happened. I just couldnt find any readily available mortality studies showing how often it happens.

                As for anecdotal evidence, I had a client with Pica, who would eat cigarette butts among other things and be vomiting all night.

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                Not questioning that you can die of nicotine overdose! I mean, you can die from water overdose. More wondering what the LD50 was, and if the butt of one cigarette was enough to be lethal.

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                  Unburned tobacco smells lovely. Walk into a cigar shop's humidor to learn what I mean.

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                  Like fig newtons and oak, with a hint of grandpas shoepolish 🥰

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                    Not questioning that you can die of nicotine overdose! I mean, you can die from water overdose. More wondering what the LD50 was, and if the butt of one cigarette was enough to be lethal.

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                    A whole typical cigarette contains around 10-12mg of nicotine. The wiki says 30-60mg is potentially fatal to an adult, but that it could potentially take as much as 500mg. So for an adult, unlikely. For a child, I see mixed things saying 1 cigarette could be fatal. This says 1-13mg per kg for an infant. So maybe, depending on the size of the butt and the child?

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                      One more idea of this kind and I'll boil your potato chips and a game console. Obviously you'll like them boiled no less than in standard variants.

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                      I mean, I do like that new electronics smell. Not sure if it pairs well with the mountain dew reduction, though.

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                      • B [email protected]

                        Did you mean to post a link to the index or a deeper link? Looks like the website is employing… URL cloaking, I once saw it called?

                        Nowadays we see that all the time on mobile where a website pushes a special URL when we use the share sheet, but manually copying the URL out of the address bar remains unaffected.

                        Not in this case though!

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                        yeah, it was just his project page and some of the folders don't have an index redirect. IDK what web server he's using but that page is hosted in his basement

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                        • D [email protected]

                          One time when I was a drunk dumb teen I ate half a cigarette and I didn't die. Didn't even feel anything. I hear that thing about a cig butt killing a child a lot, I wonder if anyone has a source?

                          Disclaimer: it's not a good idea either way

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                          My hypothesis: the clickbait factoid might be talking about the amount of nicotine that exists in a cigarette butt, which might be different from what a child would practically get in their bloodstream after eating said butt.

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                            Not a good idea. Such a broth can be used as a pesticide but it's also dangerous to humans and animals. Nicotine also absorbs through the skin so, anyone trying this (which I can't recommend but for it's dangers and general lack of need for pesticides in home gardens) should be extremely careful and use all PPE (durable waterproof gloves, goggles, long sleeves, trousers, and waterproof footwear, as well as respirator if there's any chance of aerosolizing) when applying. Seriously. While it has been used historically by home gardeners, the toxicity is no joke.

                            And, always remember: Proper PPE is sexy.

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                                Not a good idea. Such a broth can be used as a pesticide but it's also dangerous to humans and animals. Nicotine also absorbs through the skin so, anyone trying this (which I can't recommend but for it's dangers and general lack of need for pesticides in home gardens) should be extremely careful and use all PPE (durable waterproof gloves, goggles, long sleeves, trousers, and waterproof footwear, as well as respirator if there's any chance of aerosolizing) when applying. Seriously. While it has been used historically by home gardeners, the toxicity is no joke.

                                And, always remember: Proper PPE is sexy.

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                                Sorry not gonna read all that, but I assume my smoker buddies will love my homemade cigarestershire sauce!

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                                • godric@lemmy.worldG [email protected]

                                  Sorry not gonna read all that, but I assume my smoker buddies will love my homemade cigarestershire sauce!

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                                  Exactly what I said. But you missed the bit about Virginia-Perique blends.

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                                    "Standard textbooks, databases, and safety sheets consistently state that the lethal dose of nicotine for adults is 60 mg or less (30–60 mg), but there is overwhelming data indicating that more than 500 mg of oral nicotine is required to kill an adult.[7]" -- Source
                                    "The average cigarette contains about 10 to 12 mg of nicotine. " -- Source
                                    I guess it depends on your definition of "cigarette butt".

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                                    I was not talking about adults, but children. Especially of toddlers, who put a lot of things into their mouths. There have been confirmed deaths of toddlers from chewing on cigarette butts, but I'm to lazy to dig out references just for your enterteinment.

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                                      Sorry not gonna read all that, but I assume my smoker buddies will love my homemade cigarestershire sauce!

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                                      Not going to read all that, it was barely a paragraph long, what’s wrong, TikTok got your brain in a vice. Fuck I forgot I was on the shit post sub you’re probably 14

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                                        One time when I was a drunk dumb teen I ate half a cigarette and I didn't die. Didn't even feel anything. I hear that thing about a cig butt killing a child a lot, I wonder if anyone has a source?

                                        Disclaimer: it's not a good idea either way

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                                        You are an adult (mostly), not a child/toddler. Yes, there are sources.

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                                          Not going to read all that, it was barely a paragraph long, what’s wrong, TikTok got your brain in a vice. Fuck I forgot I was on the shit post sub you’re probably 14

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                                          Hey bud, this is indeed the shitpost sub, did you not expect joke replies? Pride month is over, you can take that stick out of your ass 🙂

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