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    When did you start working? Here in the states its pretty normal to have teenagers work part time after school. I did so I would have money to spend on doing stupid stuff with friends haha

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    Minimum here is 18, so 18.
    Yeah i get the temp crappy jobs kids get, but still, 18.
    Maybe if you work at your parents' small shop or something you could pull it off, but they could get in trouble.

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      Honestly, 90% of the need for dating apps would vanish if people had more free time away from work and well-kept public spaces for entertainment that didn't expect you to purchase anything.

      So rather than a government-run dating app, how about a government-sanctioned 4 day work week and well kept public parks?

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      But who makes the profit in your silly goose scenario? Somebody has to be making money or it's a terrible idea!

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      • beebabe@lemmy.worldB [email protected]

        After the third/fourth gen of Pokémon I kinda lost interest. Whenever it was they started being jet skis.

        Add tower defense and sim games to the list though. DnD based games, although I’ve played tabletop from time to time, just too much of an introvert to join a random group.

        Anyways, when you’re swiping in my age range there aren’t a lot of folks with these interests in my area. Maybe I’m too old and get shown whatever.

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        Let's see, I'm in an entire server where people your age are playing pokemon tabletop. Ok, it's not even funny anymore. I wanted to make a joke about how I'm single and into those things, but it really is like that.

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          But even non-profits need to pay for operating costs like salary and cloud fees. Where would you get the funding for that?

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          The app doesn't need to be free, and the revenue stream won't dry up if it actually works because people break up, and there are so many fucking people that even in a zero sum scenario it would take forever to reach saturation.

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            In my 50s and I don't bother anymore. It's just not worth the hassle. In my 30s I would have had to send out 100 messages to get 1 date. It's so much worse in my 50s.

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            I'm just in my 40s and single. Everyone I'd be in to is shacked up or dead at this point.

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              Pretty sure Tinder shadow banned me for some reason. I saw the same people constantly.

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              All dating apps suck, but Hinge sucked less for me. I actually found someone with similar interests that wasn't just looking for a free dinner.

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                The 17yo... at work?? I wonder what's the minimum working age in memeland.

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                It was 14 for me. But I wouldn't wish it on anyone else, kids shouldn't be laborers and it was mostly a very bad experience.

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                  The 17yo... at work?? I wonder what's the minimum working age in memeland.

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                  I started at 15 so i could afford a car.

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                  • gradually_adjusting@lemmy.worldG [email protected]

                    Yeah same. For one thing the odds - what am I, Roy Sullivan? - but real talk, I only had lightning strike that time by not dating, having a multi-year dry spell in my twenties, and only pursuing someone I knew was special and spending ages talking to them. If that's going to ever happen again, it won't be because I forced anything.

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                    wow, that's a relevant user name if ever saw one lmao.

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                    • beebabe@lemmy.worldB [email protected]

                      After the third/fourth gen of Pokémon I kinda lost interest. Whenever it was they started being jet skis.

                      Add tower defense and sim games to the list though. DnD based games, although I’ve played tabletop from time to time, just too much of an introvert to join a random group.

                      Anyways, when you’re swiping in my age range there aren’t a lot of folks with these interests in my area. Maybe I’m too old and get shown whatever.

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                      I think a lot of nerdy people need to just start going outside and doing stuff. Like, if you enjoy DND roll up to the local hobby store and start hanging out, even if you arent playing.

                      None of this is targeted directly at you, just as good a spot as any to rant.. lol

                      I think more people would be surprised that the horror stories are the minority. At my local game story I go to a painting night once a month mostly to hang out and chat. There are a pretty even split of women/men.

                      Point is I think this a safe spot to make friends and making friends is the only way to get into a relationship you'll actually enjoy.

                      I met my girlfriend doing Star wars rp. My friend met his girl playing magic l. All my single friends have something in common. They don't make time for their hobbies and don't hang out with like minded people in that space.

                      Just a side note I'm not saying that everyone should go harass people at their FLGS or use it as a dating service, but rather, going out and hanging out with like minded people opens up a lot of options that aren't on dating apps.

                      I'm pretty introverted too but when people are into whatever my hyper focus is it's much easier to open up. Go out there! Be uncomfortable! Not a cure all but it's something.

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                        Let's see, I'm in an entire server where people your age are playing pokemon tabletop. Ok, it's not even funny anymore. I wanted to make a joke about how I'm single and into those things, but it really is like that.

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                        I’d be interested in the server. Why are you making the joke? It’s okay to be single.

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                          the sea is full of plenty of fish. (although these days not so plentifully)

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                            Minimum here is 18, so 18.
                            Yeah i get the temp crappy jobs kids get, but still, 18.
                            Maybe if you work at your parents' small shop or something you could pull it off, but they could get in trouble.

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                            Oh that's kinda crazy. The minimum age here is like 14, albeit with a huge amount of restrictions. I think it got my first job at 15

                            But I was working in my parents restaurant since i was like 6 or 7. Its "technically" not allowed but people mostly turn a blind eye to parents using their kids as labor, unless its otherwise abusive/neglectful

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                              I think a lot of nerdy people need to just start going outside and doing stuff. Like, if you enjoy DND roll up to the local hobby store and start hanging out, even if you arent playing.

                              None of this is targeted directly at you, just as good a spot as any to rant.. lol

                              I think more people would be surprised that the horror stories are the minority. At my local game story I go to a painting night once a month mostly to hang out and chat. There are a pretty even split of women/men.

                              Point is I think this a safe spot to make friends and making friends is the only way to get into a relationship you'll actually enjoy.

                              I met my girlfriend doing Star wars rp. My friend met his girl playing magic l. All my single friends have something in common. They don't make time for their hobbies and don't hang out with like minded people in that space.

                              Just a side note I'm not saying that everyone should go harass people at their FLGS or use it as a dating service, but rather, going out and hanging out with like minded people opens up a lot of options that aren't on dating apps.

                              I'm pretty introverted too but when people are into whatever my hyper focus is it's much easier to open up. Go out there! Be uncomfortable! Not a cure all but it's something.

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                              For me, the biggest impediment is really having to work a full time job. And being in my late 30s, a lot of these activities are described to be for 20-30s in the meetups app. I agree though, I’ve met some nice people at gaming stores when I was younger and had the energy. So this is good advice.

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                                wow, that's a relevant user name if ever saw one lmao.

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                                I play to type

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                                  I mean the flip side of what you are saying is that people aren't allowed to have a social life free from romantic pursuit. Yes, it's a thin line to walk but you are only seeing the view from a person with limited romantic opportunities, not the person who is tired of every social interaction being hijacked by dude number 67897 "out to find people you enjoy spending time with, and maybe some of them are also people you consider pursuing romantically."

                                  Like I totally get your perspective here. Doing things, and then... Organic relationship with no pressure. That's ideal. The problem is that horny dudes hold this ideal in their head, and then use it to justify blowing up every coed activity in existence. You might think, "ok, if she says no, I'll drop it" but the counterpoint is that this ritual becomes a chore for the other side of the fence. You are socially awkward, now imagine that any time you socialize in a group you have to awkwardly defend against someone's iterative advances. And that this happens so often, it begins to color the way you interact with every acquaintance.

                                  Yes, meeting people in group settings often leads to dates. But going into those settings with the intention to find a date is a recipe for problems. This is a subtle, but important distinction which seems lost on a lot of people.

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                                  But going into those settings with the intention to find a date is a recipe for problems

                                  Here is the disconnect. You are working in the context of the fumbling weirdo who doesn't understand when the answer is no, or d-bag who thinks its just playing hard to get and he needs to pursue harder, the person that is just "on the hunt" all the time. First you are missing the context of the thread, they were never talking about them, and we cannot always be saying ideas and opinions with 20 disclaimers all the time (this message doesn't mean go out and treat social groups like speed dating, etc...) However to avoid those people you are making a blanket statement to everyone that people shouldn't go and socialize and attempt to find romantic partners because we might accidentally enable a group of people who were going to do that anyways.

                                  Unfortunately there will always be clumsy/annoying/overly-aggressive pursuits, and i can appreciate how exhausting that must be; but at the same time, I have to deal with mindless assholes everywhere, men who for whatever reason let their ego steer every interaction of their whole life (small dick energy), while it might be their fault that they could recolor how i perceive socializing, it is my responsibility to accept this is a fact of life, that it is unavoidable without extreme anti-social costs on myself, and learn to deal with it the best way i can. We cannot change others, we can only change how we react and feel about others.

                                  I am also guessing this might be a difference of social bubbles, id imagine you might be in your 20's, or maybe in a place in the world where its more acceptable for men to be uncaring about a persons comfort with being approached, this kind of stuff is quite rare in my social groups. If one of my friends was being made uncomfortable in this type of situation they would only need to flash the "I'm uncomfortable eyes" to the group and someone would go calmly pull them out of it and back into the group, and if it was a person in the group doing that, and couldn't move on, they would be removed from the group.

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                                    In no world will anyone convince me to share my person, to whom I don't own.

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                                    Well, apparently you do own them, if you think they are yours to share or not share as you choose

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                                    • linkshulkdoingit69@lemmy.nzL [email protected]

                                      Here's the great part; you don't! (I am American and only going outside for vital activities anymore)

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                                      I'm British, trying the apps but yea other than that there aren't really any other options for me.

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                                        Might not be a great idea, tbh.

                                        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lebensborn

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                                        This isn't what was suggested here at all.

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                                        • joebigelow@lemmy.caJ [email protected]

                                          The app doesn't need to be free, and the revenue stream won't dry up if it actually works because people break up, and there are so many fucking people that even in a zero sum scenario it would take forever to reach saturation.

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                                          Sorry if I come off like a butthole but I'm both curious yet dubious of the idea. I feel like people probably have thought about it but they probably ran into the same problems you'll run into.

                                          You didn't quite answer my question. Where are you getting revenue? Eg. Subscription, one-time fees for X, grants, investments, etc?

                                          Duallingo started like a non-profit but even their revenue with its massive userbase couldn't cover their expenses so they had to compromise hard to keep the lights on. The same happened to Coffee Meets Bagel. Hinge started with the same premise of "this app is meant to be deleted" but they also had to compromise and eventually sold to Match Group.

                                          Also, I feel like gay men are a unique demographic that has higher that average engagement so Grindr is probably in a uniquely advantaged position to resist enshitification.

                                          I guess I'm just saying it's probably in practice a cost center like city infrastructure or schools or research, so it might only work without heavy compromises if it's also funded by taxes.

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