France charges 18-year-old for planning attacks in first 'Incel' terrorism case
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I chose my username just as the person this article is referring to chose to be an incel.
wrote on last edited by [email protected]You seem deaf to what I'm saying. There are cultural tensions involved. Yes people choose their ethical compliances but those choices are always constrained by cultural, educational, and structural bounds. The cultural messaging of the time.
Before this generation were the first school shooters, before them it was satanic panic related crimes, before them it was the first post WW2 street gangs.
These are all topics that insert violence into cultural frameworks without having the necessary discussions of causes and the messaging around these frameworks.
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To be clear this article is about a self-declared incel who tried to target women.
Get off your soapbox it's not the place for it.
wrote on last edited by [email protected]You'll often find discussions in the comments section (also your first comment to me asked me to explain my views).
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Both.
In civilised countries you can still be tried as a child when you are deemed too immature.
Don't know how it is in France but in Germany this can be the case until you are 27 years old. So while you are for most purposes an "adult" from 18 onwards even a 26 year old can be seen as adolescent. Because the law knows that not all people are the same.
I have to agree with this. I am nearly 50, but I was incredibly immature when I was younger compared to a lot of my peers. And I think individually people need to be assessed based on their maturity levels. It was what it was, and I can't change it, but my circumstances led to that situation.
Plenty of counselling and an interesting life, which we all have probably had in our own way, has put me in step with the majority of my peers now, but I do believe that people need to be seen as individuals.
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Are you saying gay men are all incels?
I mean it really means not having sex, not technically poon
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The word incel is a portmanteau of 'involuntary celibacy' so it means, by definition, 'not getting pussy'
wrote on last edited by [email protected]What you’re describing is the etymology of the word, but its actual meaning in public discourse has morphed to “men who see women and any real or perceived slight/rejection from them as the source of all their problems and are thus generally - sometimes extremely - hateful towards them”.
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I mean it really means not having sex, not technically poon
Maybe tell that to the person I was replying to.
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Incel describes most single people. It's quite a normal state of affairs to not be having sex most of the time if you're single. Young people need to be told this far more than they are being.
Yep. Given the choice, most people would rather be getting laid. Apparently lemmy finds this idea distasteful.
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What you’re describing is the etymology of the word, but its actual meaning in public discourse has morphed to “men who see women and any real or perceived slight/rejection from them as the source of all their problems and are thus generally - sometimes extremely - hateful towards them”.
wrote on last edited by [email protected]Is there a name for people of any gender who hate dating as much as job interviews?
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It could be a translation thing. In certain parts of France, "ados" is a bit of a catch-all term for anyone in teenager or young adults years. It's not strictly defined, but would explain the presence of the word in an English translation.
It's basically the translation to teenager, so up to 20, over 20 they could still be called "grand ado" (big teen) if they're still not really mature.
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Is there a name for people of any gender who hate dating as much as job interviews?
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Wankers?
hah, yeah, sounds about right.
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I have to agree with this. I am nearly 50, but I was incredibly immature when I was younger compared to a lot of my peers. And I think individually people need to be assessed based on their maturity levels. It was what it was, and I can't change it, but my circumstances led to that situation.
Plenty of counselling and an interesting life, which we all have probably had in our own way, has put me in step with the majority of my peers now, but I do believe that people need to be seen as individuals.
Same. People age quite differently.
I didn't start puberty until I was 16. I didn't get attracted to girls until I was 17. Much later than my friends.I got a job at a pizza shop when I was 20, and I made friends with the 15+16yo employees there, I got along much better with them than people my own age. I can see how that's was potentially creepy, looking back on it, but it seemed normal enough at the time, those people were my good friends.
I matured very slowly. I didn't graduate uni until I was 29. I'm now 39, physically I look like I'm 30, mentally and psychologically I feel like I'm 30.
