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Conservative Dad Who Exclusively Watches History Channel Learns Nothing From It

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    I miss when the history channel was 90% Hitler content.

    Hitler's rise to power. Hitler's war on the eastern front. Hitler's Nazi super megastructures. Hitler's downfall. Hitler's atomic weapon. Hitler's dog.

    At least it was educational.

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      In the late 90s/early 2000s it was the WWII channel. Non-stop Third Reich munitions, strategies, successes, and failures. They may want to bring that back.

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      Even then a lot of it was perpetuating the myth of German technical superiority.

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        I miss when the history channel was 90% Hitler content.

        Hitler's rise to power. Hitler's war on the eastern front. Hitler's Nazi super megastructures. Hitler's downfall. Hitler's atomic weapon. Hitler's dog.

        At least it was educational.

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        Maybe that's why everything went to shit, because they stopped (or once showed?) the endless hitler content.

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          Even then a lot of it was perpetuating the myth of German technical superiority.

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          I mean they did have better machining and chemistry infrastructure, but that's more of a result of poor material conditions forcing inovations. Their presses and processes were really good. We did beat them easily with slightly worse technology because we could mass produce it. The US had more crudely tooled industry but we had a lot more industrial capacity.

          One of the major looted items after the war from both the US and the Soviets was the shrviving German metallurgists and chemists. Both also looted tooling and machinery.

          Operation paperclip was a lot more than rocket scientists

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            I miss when the history channel was 90% Hitler content.

            Hitler's rise to power. Hitler's war on the eastern front. Hitler's Nazi super megastructures. Hitler's downfall. Hitler's atomic weapon. Hitler's dog.

            At least it was educational.

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            I recall it being more about WW2 than Hitler. I enjoyed it, but you can find better military history on YouTube these days.

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              Not so sure this belongs on the Onion. Sounds too accurate.

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              Good thing it's on the hard times then 😉

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                That's because it's all Goddamned Ancient Aliens and Pawn Stars.

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                  That's because it's all Goddamned Ancient Aliens and Pawn Stars.

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                  And Ice Road Truckers

                  seriously idk what that has to do with history lol

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                    Even then a lot of it was perpetuating the myth of German technical superiority.

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                    I bought a Mercedes once and learned that was such a lie lol that thing broke down all the time. Expensive crap

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                    • forester@pawb.socialF [email protected]

                      I mean they did have better machining and chemistry infrastructure, but that's more of a result of poor material conditions forcing inovations. Their presses and processes were really good. We did beat them easily with slightly worse technology because we could mass produce it. The US had more crudely tooled industry but we had a lot more industrial capacity.

                      One of the major looted items after the war from both the US and the Soviets was the shrviving German metallurgists and chemists. Both also looted tooling and machinery.

                      Operation paperclip was a lot more than rocket scientists

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                      Dude, their printing presses were amazing. You can still find the Heidelberg Super Speed from 90ish years ago in working condition.

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                        And Ice Road Truckers

                        seriously idk what that has to do with history lol

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                        Historically boring

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                          In the late 90s/early 2000s it was the WWII channel. Non-stop Third Reich munitions, strategies, successes, and failures. They may want to bring that back.

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                          Hey now they also had that one show where they recreated ancient battles using the total war engine. That was pretty cool.

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                            In the late 90s/early 2000s it was the WWII channel. Non-stop Third Reich munitions, strategies, successes, and failures. They may want to bring that back.

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                            The Travel Channel has had better historical shows than The History Channel lately, maybe History should buy some of the old ones.

                            Eg Mysteries at the Museum - kinda funny editing but genuinely I learned SO MUCH History from this show and it really stuck with me. The story about Galloping Gertie and the dog stuck in the car for one.

                            (Link is sad but not gory) https://youtu.be/j-zczJXSxnw

                            Or Expedition Unknown, which that guy actually interviewed and nearly went on the Titanic sub. That episode was scrapped for safety concerns (lol) and not really historical, but he’s had plenty at old ruins etc.

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                              I liked the Daily Show sketch of the History Channel updating their WWII programming to highlight who the bad guys were.

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                                that, conservatives exclusively watch conspiracy related content on tv, besides political ons.

                                the show used to have a series about potential extinct/cryptid animals, but it switched to all the junk.

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                                  The Travel Channel has had better historical shows than The History Channel lately, maybe History should buy some of the old ones.

                                  Eg Mysteries at the Museum - kinda funny editing but genuinely I learned SO MUCH History from this show and it really stuck with me. The story about Galloping Gertie and the dog stuck in the car for one.

                                  (Link is sad but not gory) https://youtu.be/j-zczJXSxnw

                                  Or Expedition Unknown, which that guy actually interviewed and nearly went on the Titanic sub. That episode was scrapped for safety concerns (lol) and not really historical, but he’s had plenty at old ruins etc.

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                                  Nice! As a fan of real documentaries, I thank you for the heads up!

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                                    Nice! As a fan of real documentaries, I thank you for the heads up!

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                                    Oh man, do you want to discuss your favorite documentaries at all? I looove them. What types do you like the most?

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                                      In the late 90s/early 2000s it was the WWII channel. Non-stop Third Reich munitions, strategies, successes, and failures. They may want to bring that back.

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                                      First reich?

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                                        I mean they did have better machining and chemistry infrastructure, but that's more of a result of poor material conditions forcing inovations. Their presses and processes were really good. We did beat them easily with slightly worse technology because we could mass produce it. The US had more crudely tooled industry but we had a lot more industrial capacity.

                                        One of the major looted items after the war from both the US and the Soviets was the shrviving German metallurgists and chemists. Both also looted tooling and machinery.

                                        Operation paperclip was a lot more than rocket scientists

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                                        but that's more of a result of poor material conditions forcing inovations

                                        Well, also Germany was one of the world leaders in science and technology in the early 1900s all the way up to WWII. Just look at the list of winners of the Nobel Prizes in Physics and Chemistry and how many of them are German. You could even see this in the recent Oppenheimer movie, where they showed him travelling to the University of Göttingen because that was where you needed to be to study cutting edge theoretical physics. And this was the 1920s when Germany was already suffering having to repay massive war debts after WWI.

                                        What happened? When Hitler rose to power the Nazis drove off all the Jewish scientists, and scared off a lot of the gentiles. It's almost exactly the same situation as in the US today. Even the chaotic Weimar Republic wasn't enough to cause Germany's lead on science to collapse. But, when Hitler came to power, the scientists left, and a lot of them came to the US. This was the start of the US dominating science for decades, something which may collapse now due to Trump.

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                                          but that's more of a result of poor material conditions forcing inovations

                                          Well, also Germany was one of the world leaders in science and technology in the early 1900s all the way up to WWII. Just look at the list of winners of the Nobel Prizes in Physics and Chemistry and how many of them are German. You could even see this in the recent Oppenheimer movie, where they showed him travelling to the University of Göttingen because that was where you needed to be to study cutting edge theoretical physics. And this was the 1920s when Germany was already suffering having to repay massive war debts after WWI.

                                          What happened? When Hitler rose to power the Nazis drove off all the Jewish scientists, and scared off a lot of the gentiles. It's almost exactly the same situation as in the US today. Even the chaotic Weimar Republic wasn't enough to cause Germany's lead on science to collapse. But, when Hitler came to power, the scientists left, and a lot of them came to the US. This was the start of the US dominating science for decades, something which may collapse now due to Trump.

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                                          But the reason Germany was so full of those scientists is because Germany lacked access to good coal seams and to petroleum reserves and also its massive dye industry from the 1800s. In a similar fashion, Germany learned to use metals like magnesium because they were abundant while pure iron was not

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