Samsung phones can survive twice as many charges as Pixel and iPhone, according to EU data
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I don't see that menu option. I do see Settings -> Battery but it does not count cycles.
Pixel 4a Android 14
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the actual legislation is not that specific as far as i can tell:
https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/HTML/?uri=CELEX%3A32023R1669#anx_I
Article 5
Measurement methods
The information to be provided pursuant to Articles 3 and 4 shall be obtained by reliable, accurate and reproducible measurement and calculation methods, which take into account the recognised state-of-the-art measurement and calculation methods, as set out in Annex IV.
Article 6
Verification procedure for market surveillance purposes
Member States shall apply the verification procedure laid down in Annex IX when performing the market surveillance checks referred to in Article 8(3) of Regulation (EU) 2017/1369.
They also say this:
In the absence of relevant standards and until the publication of the references of the relevant harmonised standards in the Official Journal of the European Union, the transitional testing methods set out in Annex IVa, or other reliable, accurate and reproducible methods, which take into account the generally recognised state-of-the-art methods, shall be used.
So I remain hopeful.
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That’s strange, considering they all use the same battery suppliers.
It makes sense once you consider that these numbers are the manufacturers self reporting. That means they aren’t comparable, so drawing conclusions like ”manufacturer X has better batteries than manufacturer Y” from these numbers is silly.
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Before anyone rushes to replace their phones my Pixel 5 is nearly 5 years old, still on original battery (would be on at least 1200 cycles) and is presently sitting at 92% and claiming 1 day 11hrs remaining. Off the charger since 9:45 this morning and used for streaming music to my car while I was driving earlier. It still easily holds over 24 hours charge in my usage, so if I forget to charge it at night it's usually around 40% in the morning and I can plug it in sometime in the morning to top up. Perfectly useable after almost 5 years, and this is pretty normal for Pixels in my experience.
Love the new EU measurement standards but per other people's comments above they do not seem to mandate strict third-party testing, but rather rely on manufacturers submitting their results and adhering to the set test standards. This has not worked out well in the past, it should be mandatory third-party.
Cannot wait to see the return of user-replaceable batteries (thank you again, EU).
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I had the same phone, and the only reason I replaced it was because the USB C port was finicky. It must have been damaged at some point and when plugged in, the cable had to be just right. Wireless charging works great, but I wanted the stability of being able to plug in and know it would discharge over night when I didn't have a wireless charger. Otherwise, I had no issues with the battery, and I got the phone when it was pretty new to the market. I swapped it out just a few months back, and it's going to be my test phone for grapheneOS and may end up being a communal remote.
(Not saying this was your case, but generally good to check) - a finicky/wobbly USB type c connector has been a symptom of a dirty charging port several times in the past. Awful lint/dirt would get packed down into it, preventing the charger from fully inserting.
I ended up carefully and gently picking it out, though there are some delicate small contacts in there!
Anyway, good luck trying GrapheneOS! It's been my daily driver for months and past the learning experience it's great!
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I'm on pixel 6a. There is no battery info there
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Although, replacing the battery on the Fairphone is so much easier that 1000 cycles is acceptable.
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But... Samsung also needs twice as many charges because for whatever reason, their batteries simply don't last as long. Timewise, you get the same lifetime, from both. What good does a larger charging count bring, if you need to charge it twice as much? Misleading spec.
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pixel also has the bad exonys chip that drains thier battery pretty fast. im using a oneplus12r right now, and it has 2 days of batteries if intensive usage(no gaming).
Damn, yeah. My pixel will drain 50% or more in a day, in my pocket. Brutal
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Although, replacing the battery on the Fairphone is so much easier that 1000 cycles is acceptable.
You say that like it's impossible to change the battery on a Samsung phone. I can have it done in under 10 minutes.
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You say that like it's impossible to change the battery on a Samsung phone. I can have it done in under 10 minutes.
Sure but not everyone is tech savvy.
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But they don't have GrapheneOS
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Samsung encourages battery provisioning in it by the user. So most people using a samsung only charge to eighty percent.
That’s rhe same with my iPhone 16, it just charges to 100 every so often
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Sure but not everyone is tech savvy.
Can you follow a step-by-step guide?
Can you use a screwdriver to remove 5-10 identical screws?
Can you use spudgers of varying sizes?
Can you use a hair dryer?
Then you can change the battery on your Samsung phone.
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I'm still on my pixel 3 with CalyxOS
About to upgrade but only because CalyxOS has stopped supporting the 3 after all these years.
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I find that I wear out the charging port before the battery. I don't even plug it in that much either.
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Sure but not everyone is tech savvy.
But non-tech people aren't buying Faiphones, but whatever they're pushing at the Verizon store.
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But... Samsung also needs twice as many charges because for whatever reason, their batteries simply don't last as long. Timewise, you get the same lifetime, from both. What good does a larger charging count bring, if you need to charge it twice as much? Misleading spec.
I had a Fold 3, and while I loved the form factor, the battery was shit.
The screen got broken, and I decided to upgrade to a Fold 6 so far I'm very impressed. I took it off the charger in my car at 100% on Wednesday night around 10pm, and put it back on the charger at 11:30pm Friday with 15% left.
48 hours with moderate usage (including some gaming and YouTube) is pretty good.
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Can you follow a step-by-step guide?
Can you use a screwdriver to remove 5-10 identical screws?
Can you use spudgers of varying sizes?
Can you use a hair dryer?
Then you can change the battery on your Samsung phone.
I guess the answer to at least one of those is no. Last time I tried a battery replacement, I broke the screen either during assembly or disassembly. I build my own desktop PCs, and have fixed laptop monitors and drives, but every time I attempt hardware repair on something phone-ish, I make it worse (even going back to when I owned an OpenMoko).
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Sorry, no way I am going back to Samsung. I had the A71 and it was a TERRIBLE smart phone. I switched to the Pixel 6 and it was night and day.
I just need to get off my ass and install Graphene.
