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    What the fuck is this gaslighting propaganda bullshit? People in the US have been taking vacations for decades; it’s not exclusive to GenZ, nor is it a “new trend”. I call bullshit.

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      What the fuck is this gaslighting propaganda bullshit? People in the US have been taking vacations for decades; it’s not exclusive to GenZ, nor is it a “new trend”. I call bullshit.

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      Quiet quitting is just doing your job/acting your wage.

      People on the internet love to make dramatic sounding names for normal stuff.

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        If I don't take at least one 2 week period off per year, that's literally illegal. I'm also entitled to 28 days off per year that if I give enough notice and book in at least one week periods, an employer can't deny me without good reason.

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          If I don't take at least one 2 week period off per year, that's literally illegal. I'm also entitled to 28 days off per year that if I give enough notice and book in at least one week periods, an employer can't deny me without good reason.

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          Where, might I ask? For a friend. Asking for a friend.

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            During the pandemic, a large swath of hospital systems, both psych and medical, contracted with nurses to travel to work for them on 13 wk contracts. There were some significantly high contracts in the midst of the pandemic, mainly through a company called Krucial. However, the Krucial contracts were not normal work weeks but five 12hr shifts every week, with significant overtime. Overtime in travel contracts was typically above the standard 1.5x hourly rate most hourly workers are accustomed to. The weekly rates on these contracts made news. I say this so we can move past it to the standard contracts where we can talk about lack of burnout.

            The normal travel contract was typically 36hrs a week, a standard work week for the hourly nurse, with elevated OT. Rates were stronger than precovid, which was a strong lure, but the industry at large had not increased staff nurse pay with cost of living, most of the industry not seeing much in hourly rate increases past the years 2000-2008 which was some significantly bad wage stagnation. California was and is, as always, the exception in this practice. Post COVID, many states now pay nurses in keeping with the normal contract rates they originally left their staff jobs for. OT on staff is 1.5x but extra shifts beyond an FTE will often contain an extra $20-30/hr after OT is factored in, or a flat $200-500 per extra 12h shift. As such, many nurses who left for travel are back on staff and not traveling.

            Even so, there were nurses who would not leave travel even though hospitals were offering better deals on the financial side, to be staff. More money, less movement sounds good, right?

            Not for some. Burnout due to scheduling and lack of time off remains a problem for nursing staff. Meanwhile, travel contracts work like this: 13wks on, with roughly two weeks off in between. If a nurse opts to sign on for another 13wks at the same location, 1-2 weeks off is typically offered in between the old contract and the new. In addition, they can take Christmas off.

            Less pay than staff, now, but a swath of nurses stick with travel regardless because they aren’t burning out. Travel nurses don’t typically burn out. Think about why. What would your own hourly work feel like on a 13wks on, 2wks off rotation?

            Many people are going to and have to follow money, but this real life experiment has demonstrated how much less money people will take when they can to just not have to work every single week of their lives. There’s a lesson here that corporate America will likely never heed.

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              Where, might I ask? For a friend. Asking for a friend.

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              Estonia. Our 28 days includes weekends though - some countries give you fewer days but weekends aren't counted so it ends up being about the same.

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                Typical AI sludge, complete alien nonsense spouted confidently.

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                  Where, might I ask? For a friend. Asking for a friend.

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                  afaik this is the case on most of europe.

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                    1-2 weeks every 12 to 18 months? what is this, time off in Auschwitz?

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                      Typical AI sludge, complete alien nonsense spouted confidently.

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                      Yep that was my first thought too. Gotta be AI written because it makes zero sense.

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                        During the pandemic, a large swath of hospital systems, both psych and medical, contracted with nurses to travel to work for them on 13 wk contracts. There were some significantly high contracts in the midst of the pandemic, mainly through a company called Krucial. However, the Krucial contracts were not normal work weeks but five 12hr shifts every week, with significant overtime. Overtime in travel contracts was typically above the standard 1.5x hourly rate most hourly workers are accustomed to. The weekly rates on these contracts made news. I say this so we can move past it to the standard contracts where we can talk about lack of burnout.

                        The normal travel contract was typically 36hrs a week, a standard work week for the hourly nurse, with elevated OT. Rates were stronger than precovid, which was a strong lure, but the industry at large had not increased staff nurse pay with cost of living, most of the industry not seeing much in hourly rate increases past the years 2000-2008 which was some significantly bad wage stagnation. California was and is, as always, the exception in this practice. Post COVID, many states now pay nurses in keeping with the normal contract rates they originally left their staff jobs for. OT on staff is 1.5x but extra shifts beyond an FTE will often contain an extra $20-30/hr after OT is factored in, or a flat $200-500 per extra 12h shift. As such, many nurses who left for travel are back on staff and not traveling.

                        Even so, there were nurses who would not leave travel even though hospitals were offering better deals on the financial side, to be staff. More money, less movement sounds good, right?

                        Not for some. Burnout due to scheduling and lack of time off remains a problem for nursing staff. Meanwhile, travel contracts work like this: 13wks on, with roughly two weeks off in between. If a nurse opts to sign on for another 13wks at the same location, 1-2 weeks off is typically offered in between the old contract and the new. In addition, they can take Christmas off.

                        Less pay than staff, now, but a swath of nurses stick with travel regardless because they aren’t burning out. Travel nurses don’t typically burn out. Think about why. What would your own hourly work feel like on a 13wks on, 2wks off rotation?

                        Many people are going to and have to follow money, but this real life experiment has demonstrated how much less money people will take when they can to just not have to work every single week of their lives. There’s a lesson here that corporate America will likely never heed.

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                        FYI travel nursing and locum tenens were around before the pandemic and still happening after. Seasonality occurs in different regions due to snow birds (aging boomers with a vacation home) for the most part.

                        Also travel is still going to pay more than a staff nurse when comparing a single area.

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                          Yep that was my first thought too. Gotta be AI written because it makes zero sense.

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                          How did we get to the point where this is published as something serious?

                          Can I go live naked in the forest and forage for mushrooms instead? I want to macro-retire.

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                            How did we get to the point where this is published as something serious?

                            Can I go live naked in the forest and forage for mushrooms instead? I want to macro-retire.

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                            Well you have fun.

                            Meanwhile I’m gonna MEGA RETIRE.

                            Which basically just involves croaking and not working for the rest of time

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                              Oh you mean a fucking short ass vacation?

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                                Well you have fun.

                                Meanwhile I’m gonna MEGA RETIRE.

                                Which basically just involves croaking and not working for the rest of time

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                                What if I train AI on your life's data and force the AI you to work 9-5 until the Big Crunch?

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                                  1-2 weeks every 12 to 18 months? what is this, time off in Auschwitz?

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                                  Wake up, Hustle, and Grind. Ain't no time for time off. You think Elon Musk became a billionaire while chasing tail or doing drugs or spending all his time playing video games?

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                                    Vacation or busting your arse at a high paying job like truck driving for miners then quitting and living off the wages?

                                    'Cos i know Millenials who spent their 20's doing that.

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                                      1-2 weeks every 12 to 18 months? what is this, time off in Auschwitz?

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                                      I do that, but i've been wfh since 2015 so every day i have mini holidays in between workflow

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                                        Estonia. Our 28 days includes weekends though - some countries give you fewer days but weekends aren't counted so it ends up being about the same.

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                                        In Germany it's 30 days a year, excluding weekends. So a total of 6 weeks. At least in my field of work.

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                                          Wake up, Hustle, and Grind. Ain't no time for time off. You think Elon Musk became a billionaire while chasing tail or doing drugs or spending all his time playing video games?

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                                          Well no. Technically the baby mammas, ketamine and path of exile came way after he inherited all the diamond mine money... 😄

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