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Europeans, how far do you walk for groceries?

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    I was talking to a friend and complaining that the nearest grocery store is 3km from me, he says that Europeans consider that a reasonable distance to the store and I'm just being lazy.

    I don't have a car, I don't have a bike, and the bus only comes by every four hours. Am I being unreasonable for not wanting to carry groceries 3km in 30C weather, or is my friend full of shit? Neither of us have been to Europe.

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    I have several grocery stores of different chains in my vicinity, in a 3km radius I could probably choose between 10+ locations (I just checked after posting: There are at least 18 grocery stores within that range and some options like farmer markets not listed). I only go to the closest ones (~500m) by foot, for most things further away I take my bike.

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      Does it have cargo space, or do they just let you take up passenger space? Is the tram not full?

      Edit: didn't see the edit lol

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      I've been denied with luggage by a tram driver once. Moving a 2 person mattress was not allowed on the tram...

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        I was talking to a friend and complaining that the nearest grocery store is 3km from me, he says that Europeans consider that a reasonable distance to the store and I'm just being lazy.

        I don't have a car, I don't have a bike, and the bus only comes by every four hours. Am I being unreasonable for not wanting to carry groceries 3km in 30C weather, or is my friend full of shit? Neither of us have been to Europe.

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        Europeans aren’t a homogeneous blob - we’re individuals. There’s no universal consensus among us about what counts as a reasonable distance to the grocery store.

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          Europeans aren’t a homogeneous blob - we’re individuals. There’s no universal consensus among us about what counts as a reasonable distance to the grocery store.

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          Good thing I'm soliciting a range of opinions instead of just believing my friend then, right?

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            I was talking to a friend and complaining that the nearest grocery store is 3km from me, he says that Europeans consider that a reasonable distance to the store and I'm just being lazy.

            I don't have a car, I don't have a bike, and the bus only comes by every four hours. Am I being unreasonable for not wanting to carry groceries 3km in 30C weather, or is my friend full of shit? Neither of us have been to Europe.

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            I am in the states, my only non-Walmart grocery store is 0.5km and before my bike was stolen I used to ride there for groceries quite often. I rarely walk it, but I also hike ~9km a day with my dog.

            I am in New Mexico and our temps are more like 36-39c. I am trying to get out of my truck more.

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              Good thing I'm soliciting a range of opinions instead of just believing my friend then, right?

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              It’s your friend’s claim I’m criticizing - not yours.

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                I was talking to a friend and complaining that the nearest grocery store is 3km from me, he says that Europeans consider that a reasonable distance to the store and I'm just being lazy.

                I don't have a car, I don't have a bike, and the bus only comes by every four hours. Am I being unreasonable for not wanting to carry groceries 3km in 30C weather, or is my friend full of shit? Neither of us have been to Europe.

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                500m to a small one, 1.2 to a fairly sized supermarket, some 3 km to a hypermarket.

                Walking to the hypermarket and back is something I used to do quite frequently with a friend or another, but it is a slight chore, and I wouldn't enjoy going in -25C.

                Usually if I have to walk I'll go to the supermarket, 1.2km is a very reasonable distance to walk.

                Or 500m for some quick stuffs like a few beers or tobacco from the closest small store

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                  I was talking to a friend and complaining that the nearest grocery store is 3km from me, he says that Europeans consider that a reasonable distance to the store and I'm just being lazy.

                  I don't have a car, I don't have a bike, and the bus only comes by every four hours. Am I being unreasonable for not wanting to carry groceries 3km in 30C weather, or is my friend full of shit? Neither of us have been to Europe.

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                  Obligatory "I'm not European" but have quite a few online friends from euro land that I yak with regularly.

                  Remember their grocery shopping habits are (typically) much different than Americans. Where US shoppers may go once every week or two, and make large bulk purchases to load into their car, it's more common there to stop by a market every day or two on the way home from work or another errand, just to get a single light bag that is enough for the next couple meals. "Carrying home groceries" for a km or two is less of a chore if it's not 25kg of groceries at a time.

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                    I was talking to a friend and complaining that the nearest grocery store is 3km from me, he says that Europeans consider that a reasonable distance to the store and I'm just being lazy.

                    I don't have a car, I don't have a bike, and the bus only comes by every four hours. Am I being unreasonable for not wanting to carry groceries 3km in 30C weather, or is my friend full of shit? Neither of us have been to Europe.

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                    1600 metres, but I’m not walking to do the weekly shop. Or 900 metres if I want to pay extortionate amounts of money for probably out of date items.

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                      I was talking to a friend and complaining that the nearest grocery store is 3km from me, he says that Europeans consider that a reasonable distance to the store and I'm just being lazy.

                      I don't have a car, I don't have a bike, and the bus only comes by every four hours. Am I being unreasonable for not wanting to carry groceries 3km in 30C weather, or is my friend full of shit? Neither of us have been to Europe.

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                      500 meters give or take.

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                      • empireoflove2@lemmy.dbzer0.comE [email protected]

                        Obligatory "I'm not European" but have quite a few online friends from euro land that I yak with regularly.

                        Remember their grocery shopping habits are (typically) much different than Americans. Where US shoppers may go once every week or two, and make large bulk purchases to load into their car, it's more common there to stop by a market every day or two on the way home from work or another errand, just to get a single light bag that is enough for the next couple meals. "Carrying home groceries" for a km or two is less of a chore if it's not 25kg of groceries at a time.

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                        Yeah, I can't stomach our tap water, so having to buy drinking water adds to my grocery weight. I guess that's also not normal for most Europeans.

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                          I was talking to a friend and complaining that the nearest grocery store is 3km from me, he says that Europeans consider that a reasonable distance to the store and I'm just being lazy.

                          I don't have a car, I don't have a bike, and the bus only comes by every four hours. Am I being unreasonable for not wanting to carry groceries 3km in 30C weather, or is my friend full of shit? Neither of us have been to Europe.

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                          I have several stores I frequently visit here, from 300 to 1500 meters away. If I need something from further away I just jump into the car or on my bike. It's not the distance that keeps me from it, I walk about 10 kilometers a day with my dogs and friends. I just don't want to walk an hour to get groceries, that's boring as hell.

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                            500m to a small one, 1.2 to a fairly sized supermarket, some 3 km to a hypermarket.

                            Walking to the hypermarket and back is something I used to do quite frequently with a friend or another, but it is a slight chore, and I wouldn't enjoy going in -25C.

                            Usually if I have to walk I'll go to the supermarket, 1.2km is a very reasonable distance to walk.

                            Or 500m for some quick stuffs like a few beers or tobacco from the closest small store

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                            What's a hypermarket?

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                              I was talking to a friend and complaining that the nearest grocery store is 3km from me, he says that Europeans consider that a reasonable distance to the store and I'm just being lazy.

                              I don't have a car, I don't have a bike, and the bus only comes by every four hours. Am I being unreasonable for not wanting to carry groceries 3km in 30C weather, or is my friend full of shit? Neither of us have been to Europe.

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                              3km is kinda far, even with a bicycle, I have a small shop down the stairs and a medium supermarket at 5 min walk

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                                I was talking to a friend and complaining that the nearest grocery store is 3km from me, he says that Europeans consider that a reasonable distance to the store and I'm just being lazy.

                                I don't have a car, I don't have a bike, and the bus only comes by every four hours. Am I being unreasonable for not wanting to carry groceries 3km in 30C weather, or is my friend full of shit? Neither of us have been to Europe.

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                                3km is kinda far, even with a bicycle, I have a small shop down the stairs and a medium supermarket at 5 min walk

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                                  What's a hypermarket?

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                                  Well a hypermarket is to a supermarket what a supermarket is to a small grocery store.

                                  So just a very large supermarket that families would usually use for "the big shop". I assume the equivalent is one of those markets you need a card to enter in the US, idk.

                                  Except you don't need a membership (but usually there's good benefits if you have one) and you it's not all family size products.

                                  Oh my bad, actually the definition is just supermarket+department store, basically.

                                  https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypermarket

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                                    Obligatory "I'm not European" but have quite a few online friends from euro land that I yak with regularly.

                                    Remember their grocery shopping habits are (typically) much different than Americans. Where US shoppers may go once every week or two, and make large bulk purchases to load into their car, it's more common there to stop by a market every day or two on the way home from work or another errand, just to get a single light bag that is enough for the next couple meals. "Carrying home groceries" for a km or two is less of a chore if it's not 25kg of groceries at a time.

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                                    I get the feeling that many Americans are under the illusion that most Europeans live in big cities like Paris or Amsterdam. And while it may be true that people in those cities have different shopping habits compared to Americans in similarly sized cities, that doesn’t reflect the reality for all - or even most - Europeans. For me and most of my friends, going to the supermarket once or twice a week by car has always been the norm.

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                                      I was talking to a friend and complaining that the nearest grocery store is 3km from me, he says that Europeans consider that a reasonable distance to the store and I'm just being lazy.

                                      I don't have a car, I don't have a bike, and the bus only comes by every four hours. Am I being unreasonable for not wanting to carry groceries 3km in 30C weather, or is my friend full of shit? Neither of us have been to Europe.

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                                      Europeans

                                      Huge diversity.

                                      I have 1km and there are 3 different supermarkets, and I go there either by car or by bicycle.

                                      Friends who live in Sweden have 10km to the nearest supermarket and then 50 km to the next one.

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                                        Well a hypermarket is to a supermarket what a supermarket is to a small grocery store.

                                        So just a very large supermarket that families would usually use for "the big shop". I assume the equivalent is one of those markets you need a card to enter in the US, idk.

                                        Except you don't need a membership (but usually there's good benefits if you have one) and you it's not all family size products.

                                        Oh my bad, actually the definition is just supermarket+department store, basically.

                                        https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypermarket

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                                        Oh geeze, we don't make a distinction between a supermarket and a grocery store either, lol. Most 'grocery stores' in the US are apparently supermarkets because they sell stuff like dog food and laundry detergent? I don't think we have any stores that do just produce, at least not in the few states I've lived in.

                                        Going off the wiki link, it looks like I have a hypermarket ~25km away.

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                                          It’s your friend’s claim I’m criticizing - not yours.

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                                          Don't mind me, I'm just looking for stuff to shove in his face later, because I'm kinda irritated by his claim too, lol.

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