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Disposable E-Cigarettes More Toxic Than Traditional Cigarettes: High Levels of Lead, Other Hazardous Metals Found in E-Cigarettes Popular with Teens

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  • softestsapphic@lemmy.worldS [email protected]

    They may look like travel shampoo bottles and smell like bubblegum, but after a few hundred puffs, some disposable, electronic cigarettes and vape pods release higher amounts of toxic metals than older e-cigarettes and traditional cigarettes, according to a study from the University of California, Davis. For example, one of the disposable e-cigarettes studied released more lead during a day’s use than nearly 20 packs of traditional cigarettes.

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    If you read the paper, it assumes a 100% absorption rate of the heavy metals emitted.

    I'm not here to defend vapes but I think that is a seriously overlooked flaw in this study. Most people don't puff a cigarette/vape and hold it in their lungs until it's completely absorbed.

    Couldn't see anything about the bioavailability of these carcinogens via lungs factored into the absorption rate either.

    Ontop of that the sample size from this study is abysmal and from the same manufacturer and there is also a declared conflict of interest.

    IMO more studies need to be done before we can conclusively determine the damage and risks of disposable vapes.

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    • softestsapphic@lemmy.worldS [email protected]

      They may look like travel shampoo bottles and smell like bubblegum, but after a few hundred puffs, some disposable, electronic cigarettes and vape pods release higher amounts of toxic metals than older e-cigarettes and traditional cigarettes, according to a study from the University of California, Davis. For example, one of the disposable e-cigarettes studied released more lead during a day’s use than nearly 20 packs of traditional cigarettes.

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      Do these threats exist in the exhaled smoke? It seems like people around me don't GAF about the exhaust from vapes.

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        Where? Why? Is it a quality control issue or an inherent danger of the technology?

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        People want to ingest a harmful drug and not see that as a threat to their health?

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        • softestsapphic@lemmy.worldS [email protected]

          They may look like travel shampoo bottles and smell like bubblegum, but after a few hundred puffs, some disposable, electronic cigarettes and vape pods release higher amounts of toxic metals than older e-cigarettes and traditional cigarettes, according to a study from the University of California, Davis. For example, one of the disposable e-cigarettes studied released more lead during a day’s use than nearly 20 packs of traditional cigarettes.

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          What I don't get, PG/VG & nicotine + flavor chemicals. How the heck does lead get in there? Afaik its not used in synthesis of any of those things

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            What I don't get, PG/VG & nicotine + flavor chemicals. How the heck does lead get in there? Afaik its not used in synthesis of any of those things

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            The metal coil that needs to get red hot to vaporize the PG/VG.

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              The three "brands" they tested are all from the same outfit, who most certainly sources them all from the same sweatshop in China. This does not apply to all disposables by any stretch. There's plenty of better reasons to dunk on disposables.

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              I saw this same exact comment under another thread that talked about a study, but it was clearly wrong as they were from different parent companies. In this case, the brands aren't even named in the study. Again, I must ask for source for your claim, but again I don't expect you to provide it.

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                The metal coil that needs to get red hot to vaporize the PG/VG.

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                If the coil is getting red hot it's not producing vapor anymore. Vapor is just boiled oil and the boiling happens at a lower temperature than red hot by a significant amount, and the whole system is configured that the incoming vape juice cools the coil in the process of becoming vapor. This study is about as significant as noticing that if you set the filter of a cigarette on fire it can produce extra-toxic chemicals. No shit, but that's not how they work.

                More bullshit ads for plant based vaping alternatives; cigarettes.

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                • softestsapphic@lemmy.worldS [email protected]

                  They may look like travel shampoo bottles and smell like bubblegum, but after a few hundred puffs, some disposable, electronic cigarettes and vape pods release higher amounts of toxic metals than older e-cigarettes and traditional cigarettes, according to a study from the University of California, Davis. For example, one of the disposable e-cigarettes studied released more lead during a day’s use than nearly 20 packs of traditional cigarettes.

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                  I can’t fathom how they’re legal. Disposable e cigarettes? The waste is insane, and the people using then aren’t properly disposing of them either..

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                    If the coil is getting red hot it's not producing vapor anymore. Vapor is just boiled oil and the boiling happens at a lower temperature than red hot by a significant amount, and the whole system is configured that the incoming vape juice cools the coil in the process of becoming vapor. This study is about as significant as noticing that if you set the filter of a cigarette on fire it can produce extra-toxic chemicals. No shit, but that's not how they work.

                    More bullshit ads for plant based vaping alternatives; cigarettes.

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                    I've wrapped enough coils to know they do in fact get red hot. Ask anybody who built coils how many times they've had to throw away a tank full because they ran it too fast and it burnt.

                    You trust the disposables to supply enough juice to keep the coil from every getting red hot? You trust the coil to be made of safer metals?

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                      They may look like travel shampoo bottles and smell like bubblegum, but after a few hundred puffs, some disposable, electronic cigarettes and vape pods release higher amounts of toxic metals than older e-cigarettes and traditional cigarettes, according to a study from the University of California, Davis. For example, one of the disposable e-cigarettes studied released more lead during a day’s use than nearly 20 packs of traditional cigarettes.

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                        I saw this same exact comment under another thread that talked about a study, but it was clearly wrong as they were from different parent companies. In this case, the brands aren't even named in the study. Again, I must ask for source for your claim, but again I don't expect you to provide it.

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                        Because it’s the same headline on every article. Also, someone else posted the study.

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                          The metal coil that needs to get red hot to vaporize the PG/VG.

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                          It's not from the coil, at least in the cases that this article is about, but other parts of the tank. Shitty manufacturing, anyways

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                            People want to ingest a harmful drug and not see that as a threat to their health?

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                            Nicotine isn't really harmful, aside from the rediculously addictive nature it's what a vasoconstrictor?

                            Much like caffeine it has some decent properties for focus / cognitive abilities.

                            The main downfall is how it's consumed by the majority of the population. Durries are overall awful. The stench, accidental burns and all the inhaling burning plant matter leading to cancer thing.

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                              I've wrapped enough coils to know they do in fact get red hot. Ask anybody who built coils how many times they've had to throw away a tank full because they ran it too fast and it burnt.

                              You trust the disposables to supply enough juice to keep the coil from every getting red hot? You trust the coil to be made of safer metals?

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                              I think you kinda made my point for me, once the cart has hit the temperature at which it releases those chemicals the cart is immediately ruined. This kind of goes to my 'if you burn the whole cigarette including the filter the net result is even more toxic'. I mean, sure, but that's really gross data manipulation.

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                                Nicotine isn't really harmful, aside from the rediculously addictive nature it's what a vasoconstrictor?

                                Much like caffeine it has some decent properties for focus / cognitive abilities.

                                The main downfall is how it's consumed by the majority of the population. Durries are overall awful. The stench, accidental burns and all the inhaling burning plant matter leading to cancer thing.

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                                Nicotine isn’t really harmful,

                                lol #1

                                Much like caffeine it has some decent properties for focus / cognitive abilities.

                                lol #2

                                lobby harder.

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                                  It's not from the coil, at least in the cases that this article is about, but other parts of the tank. Shitty manufacturing, anyways

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                                  Or just another shitty study like the one they did in Oregon where they fired the coils for 60 seconds at a time and literally melted the rigs down before measuring what chemicals off gassed from the smoldering pile of plastic and metal.

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                                    I've wrapped enough coils to know they do in fact get red hot. Ask anybody who built coils how many times they've had to throw away a tank full because they ran it too fast and it burnt.

                                    You trust the disposables to supply enough juice to keep the coil from every getting red hot? You trust the coil to be made of safer metals?

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                                    The coils don't burn it's the cotton that burns and causes dry hits and burnt flavor.

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                                      Nicotine isn’t really harmful,

                                      lol #1

                                      Much like caffeine it has some decent properties for focus / cognitive abilities.

                                      lol #2

                                      lobby harder.

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                                      Hard to argue with a solid argument such as "lol." You really showed them who's right.

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                                        Hard to argue with a solid argument such as "lol." You really showed them who's right.

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                                        lol #3

                                        (It was such a stupid statement, one doesn't need to).

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                                        • softestsapphic@lemmy.worldS [email protected]

                                          They may look like travel shampoo bottles and smell like bubblegum, but after a few hundred puffs, some disposable, electronic cigarettes and vape pods release higher amounts of toxic metals than older e-cigarettes and traditional cigarettes, according to a study from the University of California, Davis. For example, one of the disposable e-cigarettes studied released more lead during a day’s use than nearly 20 packs of traditional cigarettes.

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                                          Just send me all the batteries!!!!!!

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