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How long does a decent USB stick last?

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    I'm thinking about getting one for several purposes, primarily for portable software, some certificates and keys, and a few backups. Since it won't be powered off for more than a few days or weeks and won't experience heavy writing (although I plan to use Veracrypt and that may cause some stress)

    How long can I expect it to last? Obviously there will be backups, but I also don't want to lose anything on it as much as possible.

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    in my experience they last as long as you can keep track of them, and, as long as the storage offered is congruent with your needs. I found a 16mb usb drive the other day. It still functions but I can't think of what I'd use it for in this age, I have flac songs that are larger than the drive lol

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      Using it for a write few read many style system

      What does this even mean?

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      I read it as occasional use on any os. If you have a Raspberry Pi running 24/7 and it's constantly whacking that memory stick with read / writes it's going to die faster than the USB stick you use to install Linux twice a year

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      • N [email protected]

        I'm thinking about getting one for several purposes, primarily for portable software, some certificates and keys, and a few backups. Since it won't be powered off for more than a few days or weeks and won't experience heavy writing (although I plan to use Veracrypt and that may cause some stress)

        How long can I expect it to last? Obviously there will be backups, but I also don't want to lose anything on it as much as possible.

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        The secret nerd technique they don't want you to know is to get a big usb stick housing for a proper m.2 SSD stick. Form wise its a slightly chunkier usb stick. Inside is a proper drive you can buy from a reputable source with terrabytes of storage and 3.0 speeds. A reputable SSD drive will easily last a decade.

        As far as store bought regular old sandisk will last a long long time.

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        • N [email protected]

          I'm thinking about getting one for several purposes, primarily for portable software, some certificates and keys, and a few backups. Since it won't be powered off for more than a few days or weeks and won't experience heavy writing (although I plan to use Veracrypt and that may cause some stress)

          How long can I expect it to last? Obviously there will be backups, but I also don't want to lose anything on it as much as possible.

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          I'd never trust a USB stick with my only copy of anything I care about. They get dropped, stepped on, accidentally dropped into vats of hydrofluoric acid, etc. Doesn't matter how long it can theoretically last if its USB jack gets bent and becomes detached from the PCB.

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          • smokeydope@lemmy.worldS [email protected]

            The secret nerd technique they don't want you to know is to get a big usb stick housing for a proper m.2 SSD stick. Form wise its a slightly chunkier usb stick. Inside is a proper drive you can buy from a reputable source with terrabytes of storage and 3.0 speeds. A reputable SSD drive will easily last a decade.

            As far as store bought regular old sandisk will last a long long time.

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            You mean 3.2g2 speeds

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              You mean 3.2g2 speeds

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              Sure, whatever nerd.

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              • N [email protected]

                I'm thinking about getting one for several purposes, primarily for portable software, some certificates and keys, and a few backups. Since it won't be powered off for more than a few days or weeks and won't experience heavy writing (although I plan to use Veracrypt and that may cause some stress)

                How long can I expect it to last? Obviously there will be backups, but I also don't want to lose anything on it as much as possible.

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                Not long enough is the true answer.

                If they just sit around on a shelf, they'll still slowly lose charge until one day the data just isn't readable. If they're on a keychain, I haven't had one last for more than two years, and I don't get my keys wet or anything.

                Even if you take great care, the data will still slowly corrupt because of how nand flash works. Unless you're rewriting all data every couple years, never getting it wet or exposing it to much, etc, they'll all fail sooner than you'd ever hope.

                That's on top of any chance at physical damage. I wouldn't trust any modern thumbdrive beyond an immediate need to carry data from one place to another.

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                • smokeydope@lemmy.worldS [email protected]

                  The secret nerd technique they don't want you to know is to get a big usb stick housing for a proper m.2 SSD stick. Form wise its a slightly chunkier usb stick. Inside is a proper drive you can buy from a reputable source with terrabytes of storage and 3.0 speeds. A reputable SSD drive will easily last a decade.

                  As far as store bought regular old sandisk will last a long long time.

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                  #46

                  Really wish that's an option since I have m.2 lying around but it's not really pocket edc material.

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                  • N [email protected]

                    I'm thinking about getting one for several purposes, primarily for portable software, some certificates and keys, and a few backups. Since it won't be powered off for more than a few days or weeks and won't experience heavy writing (although I plan to use Veracrypt and that may cause some stress)

                    How long can I expect it to last? Obviously there will be backups, but I also don't want to lose anything on it as much as possible.

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                    #47

                    It seems to be a huge lottery. I’ve only had one or two fail but that was like 2008. Supposedly there is some sort of data rot or failure rate but I’ve never experienced it. Seems highly random

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                    • N [email protected]

                      Really wish that's an option since I have m.2 lying around but it's not really pocket edc material.

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                      https://www.amazon.com/ELUTENG-Enclosure-Protocol-Adapter-External/dp/B08H22BV1N
                      There are dozens like this in all sorts of tech stores. Definitely bigger than a usb driver but not THAT much bigger

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                      • N [email protected]

                        I'm thinking about getting one for several purposes, primarily for portable software, some certificates and keys, and a few backups. Since it won't be powered off for more than a few days or weeks and won't experience heavy writing (although I plan to use Veracrypt and that may cause some stress)

                        How long can I expect it to last? Obviously there will be backups, but I also don't want to lose anything on it as much as possible.

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                        Buy one with square USB on one end, USB-C on the other, then if one fails you still have the other interface. The more reputable companies are better in this market. $17 should get you 128gb here

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                          https://www.amazon.com/ELUTENG-Enclosure-Protocol-Adapter-External/dp/B08H22BV1N
                          There are dozens like this in all sorts of tech stores. Definitely bigger than a usb driver but not THAT much bigger

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                          you can also get enclosures for 2230 drives. Pretty small at that point.

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                          • smokeydope@lemmy.worldS [email protected]

                            Sure, whatever nerd.

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                            If you don't understand the difference between 3.0 and 3.2g2, then using an m.2 enclosure is purely meaningless to you as well.

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                              Buy one with square USB on one end, USB-C on the other, then if one fails you still have the other interface. The more reputable companies are better in this market. $17 should get you 128gb here

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                              Not knocking cause I have one of these myself, but if a drive fails, isn't it more likely because of the flash storage instead of the USB interface?

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                                Not knocking cause I have one of these myself, but if a drive fails, isn't it more likely because of the flash storage instead of the USB interface?

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                                Depends how much you use it. I work in IT and plug my thumb drive in multiple times per day. In the past, most of my failures have been physical failures where the drive and the USB connection physically separate, or the USB connector just breaks. I have rarely encountered flash storage failures but I don't just put them in drawers for years, they get used a lot.

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