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Florida's plan to replace migrant workers with children falls apart

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    what's the news here? They are basically using the same arguments the US used to not ratify the Convention on the Rights of the Child. Minors being the parents property is still an almost uncontroversial position in the US even if people don't phrase it like that.

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    See also: the troubled teen industry. Ir parenting is too much work, you can send your kid to torture school.

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      Next step: to the jails and concentration camps for slave labor.

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      You should pay more attention because we've already been doing that this whole time.

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        I'm not the one you asked, but adding fluoride to tap water was a revolution in dental health, so yeah.

        Just like most things, concentration matters. A little fluoride is very good for you. A lot of fluoride is bad for you. They put a "very good for you" amount in the water, and if you don't get it from the water you should take supplements.

        You may have seen conspiracy theories about fluoride addition which have existed since the 70s, but those have about as much credibility as chemtrails.

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        Don't know about any conspiracy theories, but my take is tapwater should be as clean as possible without any additives. Fluoride is in fish, fruits, toothpaste, make sure you eat healthy enough so you don't need your water source to be "contaminated".

        But I guess in the US and the food quality its better than nothing.

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          Don't know about any conspiracy theories, but my take is tapwater should be as clean as possible without any additives. Fluoride is in fish, fruits, toothpaste, make sure you eat healthy enough so you don't need your water source to be "contaminated".

          But I guess in the US and the food quality its better than nothing.

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          Adding fluoride to water is not US specific.

          https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_fluoridation_by_country

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            Don't know about any conspiracy theories, but my take is tapwater should be as clean as possible without any additives. Fluoride is in fish, fruits, toothpaste, make sure you eat healthy enough so you don't need your water source to be "contaminated".

            But I guess in the US and the food quality its better than nothing.

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            The introduction of flouride to drinking water saw a massive improvement in the public's dental health across the board. It is still widely considered to be one of the greatest public health initiatives of the 20th century.

            You should also keep in mind that drinking water always has some level of natural flouride in it. Just the concentration varies by region. Public health officials discovered that areas with higher amounts of natural flouride also had lower rates of cavities and tooth decay. So some cities have their water flouridated to bring their flouride content up to beneficial levels.

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              So let me get this straight. The US needs Migrants so much that we're needing to replace them with teenagers?

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                Why did the children keep falling apart? Were they made of wet cardboard?

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                  Why did the children keep falling apart? Were they made of wet cardboard?

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                  The front fell off

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                    Next step: to the jails and concentration camps for slave labor.

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                    Also, anyone who wants to access government services. Want Medicaid? Work in the fields. Want Social Security? Work in the fields. Want Food Stamps? Work in the fields? Want Medicare? Work in the fields. Etc.

                    If you already have a couple of jobs, send your children to the fields. It's not like they're getting a useful education anyway. Most of it will be MAGA propaganda about how much better it is for kids to work in the fields instead of the classroom, because it keeps the evil foreigners out of our country.

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                      There's I think a dollop on the brassero program that details a past program where they'd ship high schoolers to farms for the summer in an attempt to reduce migratory workers. The program failed immediately. Conservatives are insane in the literal definition of the word.

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                      • cruxifux@feddit.nlC [email protected]

                        lol do American politicians seriously try to frame child labor laws as taking away parents rights?

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                        In ancent rome there was a law,that went something like "you cannot sell your son into slavery a third time". Americans would see that as a violation of parental rights

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                          Not surprising. They didn't plan ahead whatsoever and thought "it'll all work out" as if Conservative promises held more weight than the hot air required to speak them.

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                            Republican state Senator Jay Collins, the bill's sponsor, said the measure was about parental rights: "We should let them say what's best for their kids at 16- to 17-year-olds, that's what we're saying by this."

                            Anyone who puts forth a measure aimed at "parental rights", it's always something that's aimed at parents' right to treat their children like property

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                            Funny how you never hear them say “parental responsibilities.”

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                              So let me get this straight. The US needs Migrants so much that we're needing to replace them with teenagers?

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                              Whoa whoa whoa, teenager is already a bit old and commands more hourly

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                                So let me get this straight. The US needs Migrants so much that we're needing to replace them with teenagers?

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                                I mean, that's one way to look at it.

                                The more accurate way to look at is that the American right hates migrants and people of color so much that they would force their children into hard labor just to make sure nobody who sounds or looks different receives any kind of benefit.

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                                  The bill would have permitted 16- and 17-year-olds to work overnight on school days and work longer than an eight-hour day before a school day. Some 14- and 15-year-olds would also have been allowed to work those hours.

                                  This is a horrifying concept and a great way to keep kids uneducated so they keep voting for lying repubs when they get older.

                                  Governor Ron DeSantis said during a panel discussion in March: "Why do we say we need to import foreigners, even import them illegally, when, you know, teenagers used to work at these resorts, college students should be able to do this stuff? … What's wrong with expecting our young people to be working part-time now? I mean, that's how it used to be when I was growing up."

                                  They also used to work in factories where they'd get maimed and other high-risk environments. Shall we bring that back too, Governor Dipshit Fascist? Seriously, get fucked.

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                                  They are framing it like plucky shirtless college boys might wanna go pick cucumbers for a weekend to make a few bucks for rootbeer floats down at the soda-fountain.

                                  One of the things that infuriates me about our species broadly is how terrible people are at visualizing actual, real systems and their scope and scale.

                                  If you don't know anything about the factory-farming our society requires to survive, you should probably take a short tour of the massive machine we've built and depend on so you understand the scale of the problem and why even the immigrants we have/had now aren't even enough to keep the system running. This is why aging populations are a huge problem, this is a foundational cornerstone of our whole civilization, much like medicine and vaccines, and it's being waved off like something we can just swap out demographics for funsies and to give bro's trying to afford their new baseball mitts and textbooks, all good, right??

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                                    lol do American politicians seriously try to frame child labor laws as taking away parents rights?

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                                    part of the conservative ideology is that children are property and should be molested, not heard.

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                                      Capitalist rule: If you can't exploit people, just find people who are more exploitable.

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                                      • V [email protected]

                                        what's the news here? They are basically using the same arguments the US used to not ratify the Convention on the Rights of the Child. Minors being the parents property is still an almost uncontroversial position in the US even if people don't phrase it like that.

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                                        The news is that USA is still a disgusting labor camp. Always has been.

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                                          Good thing the north left a loophole in the constitution after the civil war just for a situation like this.

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                                          Some things never change.

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