Why are most religious people so easy to manipulate? (serious)
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If you believe in a magic man in the sky and a talking snake, it's probably pretty easy to convince them of other things too.
Religion has already filtered out a population segment more likely to defer to authority figures when faced with facts that contradict reality.
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That sounds like the Bonhoeffer kind of stupid.
I don’t think I’ve ever heard anyone call Bonhoeffer stupid before. Personally I wish more pastors got involved in plots to assassinate genocidal fascists.
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I'm watching Apocalypse in the Tropics documentary on Netflix about evangelicals and politics in Brazil and it's mind boggling. Why do the religious people just blindly do whatever the pastors tell them?
Because they're people; and people, in general, are easy to manipulate.
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I'm watching Apocalypse in the Tropics documentary on Netflix about evangelicals and politics in Brazil and it's mind boggling. Why do the religious people just blindly do whatever the pastors tell them?
Evangelical in the sense of protestant christians or in the sense of that crazy cult that's going on over in the Americas? Maybe it's just the news giving me the wrong idea, but I really don't recognise my religion just one ocean away.
I am a scepticist, but (or rather because) I grew up with a progressive church that allows and encourages critical thinking. Very tame stances overall, no overly aggressive rethoric, laughing and coloring you hair very much allowed. Then you cross the pond and hear fuming people talk about filthy infidels and holy wars like wth...
I think these people are not necessarily easy to manipulate, but indoctrinated to hell and back
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I don’t think I’ve ever heard anyone call Bonhoeffer stupid before. Personally I wish more pastors got involved in plots to assassinate genocidal fascists.
wrote last edited by [email protected]I really wrote that poorly.
I was referring to his views on stupidity being a choice and a way of (not) thinking instead of an intrinsic attribute. That's how someone intelligent can have stupid thoughts. -
I really wrote that poorly.
I was referring to his views on stupidity being a choice and a way of (not) thinking instead of an intrinsic attribute. That's how someone intelligent can have stupid thoughts.Bonhoeffer was anything but stupid and the opposite of the 'blind faith' kind of Christian.
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I don’t think I’ve ever heard anyone call Bonhoeffer stupid before. Personally I wish more pastors got involved in plots to assassinate genocidal fascists.
Was that plot even real or was it a kangaroo court sort of thing?
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I'm watching Apocalypse in the Tropics documentary on Netflix about evangelicals and politics in Brazil and it's mind boggling. Why do the religious people just blindly do whatever the pastors tell them?
People in general are easily manipulated, and those who manipulate use the beliefs of the people they’re manipulating to do so.
Religion certainly is a something used for that, but it’s hardly the only one.
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I'm watching Apocalypse in the Tropics documentary on Netflix about evangelicals and politics in Brazil and it's mind boggling. Why do the religious people just blindly do whatever the pastors tell them?
I think you have it backwards, it's no wonder people who are easy to manipulate get drawn into religion.
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Was that plot even real or was it a kangaroo court sort of thing?
I think it was real. His level of involvement is debatable, but his writings seem to indicate he at least knew about it.
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Bonhoeffer was anything but stupid and the opposite of the 'blind faith' kind of Christian.
Gotcha. I agree.
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I think it was real. His level of involvement is debatable, but his writings seem to indicate he at least knew about it.
Kind of lazy of me not to look it up myself...
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Organized religion is a means to control people. Always has been. How can anybody be surprised to learn after thousands of years they have actually perfected the craft of controlling people?
Those who can make you believe in absurdities can make you commit atrocities. - Voltaire
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I'm watching Apocalypse in the Tropics documentary on Netflix about evangelicals and politics in Brazil and it's mind boggling. Why do the religious people just blindly do whatever the pastors tell them?
Because they have been taught, from childhood, to just believe whatever the guy up front tells them to.
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Kind of lazy of me not to look it up myself...
No such thing as lazy, that’s just a word we use to shame people into doing stuff they don’t feel like doing. -
I'm watching Apocalypse in the Tropics documentary on Netflix about evangelicals and politics in Brazil and it's mind boggling. Why do the religious people just blindly do whatever the pastors tell them?
It's why religions make such a BIG DEAL about "faith".
Faith is simply a commitment to believe things that otherwise contradict obvious reality (but which invariably work to some "leader's" advantage).
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I'm watching Apocalypse in the Tropics documentary on Netflix about evangelicals and politics in Brazil and it's mind boggling. Why do the religious people just blindly do whatever the pastors tell them?
Watch documentaries on chimpanzees, watch what they do individually and as tribes and then you'll understand. We are not far removed from those great apes, and it shows.
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I'm watching Apocalypse in the Tropics documentary on Netflix about evangelicals and politics in Brazil and it's mind boggling. Why do the religious people just blindly do whatever the pastors tell them?
wrote last edited by [email protected]I think maybe you have it backwards people who are easily swayed/trusting of authority/gullible are going to be naturally drawn toward religion. Skeptics/those who don’t take things at face value are going to be naturally skeptical of it.
Religion doesn’t make you stupid but it’s very attractive to the sort
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Survival of the fittest has failed humanity many cenuries ago.
Survival of the fittest is who is best at sexing not who is best at thinking
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I'm watching Apocalypse in the Tropics documentary on Netflix about evangelicals and politics in Brazil and it's mind boggling. Why do the religious people just blindly do whatever the pastors tell them?
wrote last edited by [email protected]Why are most
religiouspeople so easy to manipulate?Targeted Propaganda creates an online echo-chamber where everyone thinks that they're correct for obvious -to them- reasons (Selective reporting, lying by omission, no one reads the retraction etc.). Add to that the addictive and isolating nature of smart technology, the sense of community they find in their personal traits/hobbies/beliefs/interests and the fact that the rich are actively trying to destroy the middle and working class. That's how you get someone from group X, who believes they are wholly correct and smart enough to not be manipulated by media, asking why group Y is so easy to manipulate. It's not about characteristics of faith, or anything like that. It's the people at the top, telling you it's other members of your class dragging you down. Through the global media monopolies that they control. We're all part of it.
