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  • cilethesane@lemmy.caC [email protected]

    "So who can I refuse treatment to?"

    "That's the neat part. You don't."

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    never have refused. never will.

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      "Is this career path okay with discrimination? Because I have groups I want to die."

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        Doesn't this fall under the Hippocratic oath anyways? Or am I mistaken

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        The oath is a promise, not a law. People break promises all the time.

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          Don't feel too bad, I once had a ticket come across my desk for HIPPO violations. It took half the day to figure out what they were talking about.

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          HIPPO violations? You'd think those websites would be blocked by the firewall.

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            Or move to Tennessee.

            They want doctors who hurt the people they don't like.

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              And Mengele's skeleton is a teaching tool at the University of São Paulo, cause it's the most ironic thing they came up with.

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              Somebody at the university must've been a john deere fanboy.

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              • buboscandiacus@mander.xyzB [email protected]

                Some think they know biology sooo well, and that LGBTs are anomalies not worthy of life

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                Hospital worker here. No amount of education can undo the dogma of right wing extremism. You wouldn't think hateful bigots would be counted among nurses, doctors, etc since they literally spent years studying exactly why they should know better.

                But then Fox or some preacher starts hating on trans folks and suddenly their medical knowledge about the community is just straight into the dumpster.

                They need to be fired.

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                  "Is this career path okay with discrimination? Because I have groups I want to die."

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                  It is important to consider both sides on any issue. Thank you for keeping things Fair and Balanced.

                  ~/s~

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                  • buboscandiacus@mander.xyzB [email protected]

                    Some think they know biology sooo well, and that LGBTs are anomalies not worthy of life

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                    That line of thinking also breaks down once you consider that life itself is the OG anomaly, and that the evolution of complex life was fueled by a never ending torrent of anomalies.

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                    • remembertheapollo_@lemmy.worldR [email protected]

                      The oath is a promise, not a law. People break promises all the time.

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                      If you are POTUS you get to break the law all the time too.

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                      • cilethesane@lemmy.caC [email protected]

                        Someone being LGBT doesn't mean McDonald's is allowed to refuse them service, or ESSO is allowed to refuse to sell them gas, or a gym can refuse them membership. Why the fuck do you think a doctor should be allowed to refuse them treatment for a disease?

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                        What? They can totally do those things. They are private businesses who can reject whomever they want. Protected classes are only protected for things like housing, employment, and public things (school/utilities/etc.)

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                          What if I wanna be a chaotic-good doctor and deny nazis treatment?

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                          • cilethesane@lemmy.caC [email protected]

                            Someone being LGBT doesn't mean McDonald's is allowed to refuse them service, or ESSO is allowed to refuse to sell them gas, or a gym can refuse them membership. Why the fuck do you think a doctor should be allowed to refuse them treatment for a disease?

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                            Someone being LGBT doesn’t mean McDonald’s is allowed to refuse them service, or ESSO is allowed to refuse to sell them gas, or a gym can refuse them membership.

                            Patience, patience ... the GOP is working on this as well.

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                              I know. It was more a post covidal rant at the nurses. Even if you are at your limit those masks are self protection.

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                              Yeah for sure, it must've been that much more frustrating for the nurses that understood the importance of PPE having to work with ones that didn't.

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                                What? They can totally do those things. They are private businesses who can reject whomever they want. Protected classes are only protected for things like housing, employment, and public things (school/utilities/etc.)

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                                If that were true, the US would still have segregated lunch counters, grocery stores, and private buses. The Supreme Court may be getting us on the way there one day, but right now the only way that private businesses are allowed to discriminate against protected classes is to call the output work a "creative expression" like website design, floral arrangement, or cake decoration, and that's from the 303 Creative case.

                                Besides, how would it make sense if a company could bar you as a customer for being gay, but be compelled to employ you?

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                                  Human beings were obviously a terrible idea.

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                                  I still think Jennifer Love Hewitt was a great idea.

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                                  • cilethesane@lemmy.caC [email protected]

                                    Someone being LGBT doesn't mean McDonald's is allowed to refuse them service, or ESSO is allowed to refuse to sell them gas, or a gym can refuse them membership. Why the fuck do you think a doctor should be allowed to refuse them treatment for a disease?

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                                    Wasn't there a bakery that won a case allowing them not to sell wedding cakes to gay couples?

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                                      Look I'm gonna get a lot of hate for this but let's try and be a little nuance about this.

                                      I don't think it is moral to force someone to do something they don't want to do for whatever reason. Eg u shouldn't be allowed to force a woman to carry a pregnancy to completion. Nor should u be forced to help said person end that pregnancy if you don't want to. I think if u don't want to end it you should be forced to give them the contact of someone who will.

                                      If you are going to force someone to medically treat someone for something you don't want to do, u by definition do not believe it is beneficial to them and is thus a violation of ur oath.

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                                        never have refused. never will.

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                                        But do u think its important that u retain the right to? Even if you don't intend to use it.

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                                          Not suddenly, but gradually

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                                          Very much not true for all. Some realise things over time, but most were born like they are. Some also do choose things, but it's a very small percentage and that in no way makes it any less important to accept and support.

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