Yes Facebook is a dumpster fire, but this is always interesting if you are on there.
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Okay, so it's not normal.
It's me speaking, I say it's not normal here, so it's not normal. By your definition.
Of course if we dispense with the pendantry we would argue that the point of saying it's not normal is to highlight how it's inconsistent with the approach of society towards the rest of itself, so a society where women change their name to take their husband's is not normal because it's inconsistent with the rest of the mores regarding the interactions between men and women.
But that'd require not nitpicking a thing to pick a pedantic fight online that is a waste of time, so... not in the scope of this conversation, I suppose.
You don't think it's normal but for them it is. Simple as
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You don't think it's normal but for them it is. Simple as
No, wait, why can you phrase it that way but not "it's not normal but they think it is".
Why is one of those statements not equivalent to the other?
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Please don't tell me to get off of it, I have old Livejournal friends to keep in touch with and that's why I'm there.
Facebook has had my middle name as a last name since day 1. I was never into giving them personal information.
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If I had some other platform that was viable I would not be there. Some of it is beyond my control, but none of those friends use Livejournal anymore.
wrote last edited by [email protected]You're talking on another viable platform right now, plus Mastodon and even Bsky for that matter although given Bsky is centralized ultimately, and also ultimately corporate-ran, who knows when or if they won't go down the same dark path to ruin as Twitter or Facebook some day.
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Please don't tell me to get off of it, I have old Livejournal friends to keep in touch with and that's why I'm there.
Saying you have to stay on Facebook to keep up with people says you aren't able or willing to put in the energy required to keep up with people yourself.
There are hundreds of communication platforms, and a most of them aren't run by assholes trying to ruin society for their own personal gain.
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It does make it easier to work out who's paired up with who, and which kid belongs to which parent.
The history of the practice is pretty gross, but there are some benefits.
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Please don't tell me to get off of it, I have old Livejournal friends to keep in touch with and that's why I'm there.
wrote last edited by [email protected]I thought I was being original when I did this. Though I used my middle name so no one from my hometown could find me and I only use fb for marketplace. Fb needs a separate app for marketplace. When I bring this up my brother always goes "then I couldn't check their page to see if they are a wierdo". My guy, you were goonin over a girls account that bought your couch, you're the creep. Like that's exactly why it would be better. "Ebay 2.0 local buy sell trade" i don't need to know Annie has 4 kids and golden retriever. All I need to know is the price, but I digress
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Please don't tell me to get off of it, I have old Livejournal friends to keep in touch with and that's why I'm there.
You know it’s a dumpster fire yet you remain. There was no way I was going to try and convince you.
Technically I still have an account. It’s from the before times when you could have a fake name and not need to verify anything. I’ve used it twice in 9 years, both times for selling things. Pissed it’s still the best place for that.
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I thought I was being original when I did this. Though I used my middle name so no one from my hometown could find me and I only use fb for marketplace. Fb needs a separate app for marketplace. When I bring this up my brother always goes "then I couldn't check their page to see if they are a wierdo". My guy, you were goonin over a girls account that bought your couch, you're the creep. Like that's exactly why it would be better. "Ebay 2.0 local buy sell trade" i don't need to know Annie has 4 kids and golden retriever. All I need to know is the price, but I digress
Soooooo Craigslist? It's wild to me how everyone flocked to FB.
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Soooooo Craigslist? It's wild to me how everyone flocked to FB.
I'm ok with a craigslist reboot. As long as we can bring back all the murders, drug dealers and hookers aka everything that made craigslist fun
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Saying you have to stay on Facebook to keep up with people says you aren't able or willing to put in the energy required to keep up with people yourself.
There are hundreds of communication platforms, and a most of them aren't run by assholes trying to ruin society for their own personal gain.
People used to write letters to stay in touch. Literally basic email could fill that niche.
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No, wait, why can you phrase it that way but not "it's not normal but they think it is".
Why is one of those statements not equivalent to the other?
Because for them over in wherever it is normal. If they lived where you live it wouldn't be normal.
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Because for them over in wherever it is normal. If they lived where you live it wouldn't be normal.
Okay, but what says their perspective takes precedence? You're saying it's normal for them. Cool. I'm saying it's not normal for us.
Why is their normal a higher priority than our not normal? Either "normal" is a meaningless concept or you need a better justification than that.
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Okay, but what says their perspective takes precedence? You're saying it's normal for them. Cool. I'm saying it's not normal for us.
Why is their normal a higher priority than our not normal? Either "normal" is a meaningless concept or you need a better justification than that.
Normality is defined by what happens around them. For them it is normal, for an outsider it might not be. If they would be talking about you then the roles and normality would be reversed
Normality isn't meaningless it's just dependent on the surroundings
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If I had some other platform that was viable I would not be there. Some of it is beyond my control, but none of those friends use Livejournal anymore.
I know they're not exactly the same from the few glimpses of Fandom history I've seen of LiveJournal, but you seriously didn't like anything about Pleroma, Frendica, Hubzilla, Diaspora, AND Wafrn? The first 4 are all essentially Facebook clones, although they can be seen as macro-blogging sites too. Wafrn is literally Tumblr, just decentralized.
I would highly recommend giving those a chance rather than clinging to FB, as these friends could totally manage it.
Here's the Fediverse.party site to check them all out (Wafrn link here).
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People used to write letters to stay in touch. Literally basic email could fill that niche.
wrote last edited by [email protected]Just write an email
Just call them
Yeah no thanks
I'll just scan for their name in the papers.
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Normality is defined by what happens around them. For them it is normal, for an outsider it might not be. If they would be talking about you then the roles and normality would be reversed
Normality isn't meaningless it's just dependent on the surroundings
I don't understand why you think normality is defined by the object of the sentence rather than the subject.
I mean, if you take your definition of normal, surely the person speaking determines what's normal, right? That's not a good thing, because your working definition of normalcy is bad and nonsensical and only determined by your desire to antagonize somebody online on a nitpick, so you probably don't like it much yourself beyond that. But if we take it, then I get to say what's normal when I speak because normal is "the state of being usual, typical, or expected" and I'm the one having the expectations here.
The surroundings are my surroundings because it is my post.
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Please don't tell me to get off of it, I have old Livejournal friends to keep in touch with and that's why I'm there.
It's Angela, isn't it?
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Please don't tell me to get off of it, I have old Livejournal friends to keep in touch with and that's why I'm there.
Since when do random low quality social media posts qualify as "meme"?-_-
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I don't understand why you think normality is defined by the object of the sentence rather than the subject.
I mean, if you take your definition of normal, surely the person speaking determines what's normal, right? That's not a good thing, because your working definition of normalcy is bad and nonsensical and only determined by your desire to antagonize somebody online on a nitpick, so you probably don't like it much yourself beyond that. But if we take it, then I get to say what's normal when I speak because normal is "the state of being usual, typical, or expected" and I'm the one having the expectations here.
The surroundings are my surroundings because it is my post.
I'm not sure why you're struggling with this so much. Of course it makes sense to consider what is normal for the people we are talking about.
If you would've wanted to make your first sentence really clear you could've said "it's normal for them but not for me" or something.
