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    #9

    "You can just create 1 Sentence to remember all Passwords for particular Services like Lemmy World!"

    Ycjc1StraPfpSlLW!

    There you go. Different passwords for everything, but you only need to remember one.
    And no need for a password manager which may not be available on every device.

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      Hasn’t it been a long time since a breach?

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      I don't see any reason not to just use another PWM anyway. Bitwarden has freemium, 1password has great tooling, does LastPass have anything worth salvaging?

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      • mimicjar@lemmy.worldM [email protected]

        Agreed. We need some way to Manage these Passwords. Something to protect all our password Bits and watch over them like a Warden. Some way that I could have just 1 Password. I just want something to Keep my Ass, err Keep my Pass-words safe.

        Hopefully someone will solve this problem. Someday.

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        Some sort of express lane for passwords.... Like a real dash lane.

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          When I made login passwords as a kid outside of school and the library, and approached 3 passwords I actually had to remember instead of them being my birthdate, I thought "It begins..." Now I have over a hundred. But serving Bitwarden and letting it handle 'randomly' generated passwords with dozens of characters allows me to reduce my load back down to 1 very secure manual password and a few frequent manual ones, for example if Microsoft logs my Xbox profile out of the console I'm not going to sit there d-padding my way through 50+ characters.

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            My mom calls me every 3-4 weeks to ask how she can copy photos from her phone to her laptop. She's been doing that for years and years, she should know the process by now, it's really not hard at all.

            I installed Bitwarden for her 2 years ago on her phone and in Firefox, she hasn't needed a single support call about it and actually transferred two decades worth of logins two Bitwarden by herself.

            My point is, if my mom can do it, then you have no excuse.

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              Hasn’t it been a long time since a breach?

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              it doesn't matter so much how long its been since a breach and more how they acted about their breaches

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                My mom calls me every 3-4 weeks to ask how she can copy photos from her phone to her laptop. She's been doing that for years and years, she should know the process by now, it's really not hard at all.

                I installed Bitwarden for her 2 years ago on her phone and in Firefox, she hasn't needed a single support call about it and actually transferred two decades worth of logins two Bitwarden by herself.

                My point is, if my mom can do it, then you have no excuse.

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                I tried something similar with my mom. Unfortunately she couldn't handle it and stopped trying to use it after a few days, then went back to the old horrible habits of memorizing everything (except not, then getting frustrated). I realized I can't save everyone 😕

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                • glorkon@lemmy.worldG [email protected]

                  "You can just create 1 Sentence to remember all Passwords for particular Services like Lemmy World!"

                  Ycjc1StraPfpSlLW!

                  There you go. Different passwords for everything, but you only need to remember one.
                  And no need for a password manager which may not be available on every device.

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                  ...except that all your passwords are the same save for a few characters. It protects you from lazy password stuffing, but if multiple breaches reveal your pattern you may still be targeted. Also, most of the big password managers are available for most device types as far as I'm aware. That's not to say that it doesn't take some work, but I think many people agree that the payoff is worth it.

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                    I tried something similar with my mom. Unfortunately she couldn't handle it and stopped trying to use it after a few days, then went back to the old horrible habits of memorizing everything (except not, then getting frustrated). I realized I can't save everyone 😕

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                    OK, maybe I was a bit harsh. Everyone being on lemmy personally has no excuse, their parents might 😄

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                      I tried something similar with my mom. Unfortunately she couldn't handle it and stopped trying to use it after a few days, then went back to the old horrible habits of memorizing everything (except not, then getting frustrated). I realized I can't save everyone 😕

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                      I think memorizing everything is a great habit. Maybe not the best with no backup, but still great.

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                      • glorkon@lemmy.worldG [email protected]

                        "You can just create 1 Sentence to remember all Passwords for particular Services like Lemmy World!"

                        Ycjc1StraPfpSlLW!

                        There you go. Different passwords for everything, but you only need to remember one.
                        And no need for a password manager which may not be available on every device.

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                        Until you need to change a password because it's been pwned.

                        Until you need to adhere to certain password lengths, rules etc.

                        Until you forget the exact way you abbreviated a sites name.

                        Just use a password manager.

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                          Some sort of express lane for passwords.... Like a real dash lane.

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                          WHICH IS TODAY'S SPONSOR

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                          • nekusoul@lemmy.nekusoul.deN [email protected]

                            Until you need to change a password because it's been pwned.

                            Until you need to adhere to certain password lengths, rules etc.

                            Until you forget the exact way you abbreviated a sites name.

                            Just use a password manager.

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                            Yeah I frequently see people tout this "solution" that's actually a serious anti-pattern.

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                              Hasn’t it been a long time since a breach?

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                              "yeah, we let a dumbass access company files through his home computer which they didn't maintain properly leading to a years-old vulnerability in the plex server software compromise that machine and because they are a dumbass they had the connection always-on (afaik) so they basically rolled out the red carpet straight into ALL of our customers accounts and vaults. But it's totes cool brah, we haven't had reported an incident like that since! because we totally tried to cover it up and downplay it, and everyone abandoned us! so we will never do that again! the reporting, I mean."

                              But it's fine, it's been a long time.

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                                I don't understand how I could ever live without a password manager.

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                                  My mom calls me every 3-4 weeks to ask how she can copy photos from her phone to her laptop. She's been doing that for years and years, she should know the process by now, it's really not hard at all.

                                  I installed Bitwarden for her 2 years ago on her phone and in Firefox, she hasn't needed a single support call about it and actually transferred two decades worth of logins two Bitwarden by herself.

                                  My point is, if my mom can do it, then you have no excuse.

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                                  She just wants to talk to you

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                                    I tried something similar with my mom. Unfortunately she couldn't handle it and stopped trying to use it after a few days, then went back to the old horrible habits of memorizing everything (except not, then getting frustrated). I realized I can't save everyone 😕

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                                    I'm still trying to get my girlfriend to use bitwarden, she managed to lock herself out of her account the first time she tried and hasn't gone back. I told her to give me her master password next time to prevent that. Still trying to crack that chestnut...

                                    My wife is still on LastPass and is mad that she needs to figure something else out and has so far refused to change systems. Trying to get her to switch, but something is better than nothing I guess. I at least cranked up the settings so she isn't as impacted by their mismanagement.

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                                      She just wants to talk to you

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                                      Nah. We phone 1-2x/week, these are very specific "sorry to ask this again, I have already put in the cable, but now what" questions.

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                                        I don't understand how I could ever live without a password manager.

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                                        You would reuse the same password or use the same password with slight variations. I would also often see passwords written down on sticky notes. People sometimes has different passwords but stores them unencrypted in password.xls or something similarly named.

                                        Thank God for password managers these days. I haven't refused the same password for many years now. I generate three random words with a number and special character for all my passwords.

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                                          Its more of "why do I need an account to use this service".

                                          My boss used Scribe to show a step-by-step process on how to use a new tool at work. It was just screenshots of the desktop and some text. A powerpoint presentation would have sufficed, with no* account needed. (Well, work uses the Microsoft suite, but Libre Office has no account needed)

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