the war on computation
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As a security and privacy minded person im glad i CAN keep automatic updates enabled on GrapheneOS without having to worry about some crappy forced features being added.
I see windows users have to disable them too, its so crazy to me that people tollerate this stuff instead of just switching... Like yeah automatic updates that break things are annoying but "linux is too complicated", so instead of learning to adapt to a new system, you adapt to just accepting that you dont fully get to control your devices a they will get progressively worse until eventually you have to get a whole new device. SMH
“linux is too complicated”
The worst part of this is that it's no longer true. Windows is WAY more complicated than Linux (can be) at this point.
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Yea, that's a Windows Home thing.
Upgrade to pro, where that stuff doesn't exist.
Not to justify it, but the thinking by MS is "this OS is free, so you get ads", like commercial TV or the rest of the nonsense on the internet.
Also, I've run Windows with updates disabled since Windows XP, and have rarely run into problems. I say this as someone who's been in IT since the early 90's. I've seen 10x more problems caused by updates at work than anything else.
At home I enable updates every 6 months, then go manually grab the updates I need, or else it'll update things that will break my system.
Is Windows Home free? I’ve certainly never seen it be free. I’m ok with free stuff needing to make money somehow, within reason, but the second they start asking for creditcard information that shit better be clean as a fucking whistle.
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Alas, I am running the Home version. I did find in my research posts from sysadmins running the Enterprise version who seemed to have more luck permanently disabling it than I did.
if you wanna switch to the pro version, which should also be better in this regard, here's a handy link:
https://github.com/massgravel/Microsoft-Activation-Scripts
turns out the windows activation is extremely insecure and easy to fool
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They want us straight into shackles. One could say that their behavior is downright rapey, and they will probably do that as well.
The solutions to such lawlessness is obvious.
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Yea, that's a Windows Home thing.
Upgrade to pro, where that stuff doesn't exist.
Not to justify it, but the thinking by MS is "this OS is free, so you get ads", like commercial TV or the rest of the nonsense on the internet.
Also, I've run Windows with updates disabled since Windows XP, and have rarely run into problems. I say this as someone who's been in IT since the early 90's. I've seen 10x more problems caused by updates at work than anything else.
At home I enable updates every 6 months, then go manually grab the updates I need, or else it'll update things that will break my system.
Windows Home isn't free, though.
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Yea, that's a Windows Home thing.
Upgrade to pro, where that stuff doesn't exist.
Not to justify it, but the thinking by MS is "this OS is free, so you get ads", like commercial TV or the rest of the nonsense on the internet.
Also, I've run Windows with updates disabled since Windows XP, and have rarely run into problems. I say this as someone who's been in IT since the early 90's. I've seen 10x more problems caused by updates at work than anything else.
At home I enable updates every 6 months, then go manually grab the updates I need, or else it'll update things that will break my system.
I paid for my Windows license already, I think it was like $110. I'm not really interested in giving Microsoft any more money to continuing to use a product which is worse than the one I already paid for.
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Have you tried GRC’s InControl? Supposedly helps prevent the win11 update attempts.
Oh thanks I'll have to give that a shot later!
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Is Windows Home free? I’ve certainly never seen it be free. I’m ok with free stuff needing to make money somehow, within reason, but the second they start asking for creditcard information that shit better be clean as a fucking whistle.
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“linux is too complicated”
The worst part of this is that it's no longer true. Windows is WAY more complicated than Linux (can be) at this point.
I feel Windows 10 and 11, which I am forced to use on various work computers, represent a new era of impossible to predict UI behavior. Like, hats off if that was intended, they succeeded. I can't make heads or tails of anything anymore, and the things I want are several options deep now.
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oneUI or whatever really made it worse
I went from an s9+ to an s23. it felt great
then I got a forced OS update and it feels like I went halfway back to the beat to shit s9 again
Gods above, I wish I could go back to before this stupid update. I was denying the update for months and then it went ahead and still updated in my sleep. I hate this update. Such a downgrade in so many ways.
If I understood it better, I'd change my OS at this point.
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As a security and privacy minded person im glad i CAN keep automatic updates enabled on GrapheneOS without having to worry about some crappy forced features being added.
I see windows users have to disable them too, its so crazy to me that people tollerate this stuff instead of just switching... Like yeah automatic updates that break things are annoying but "linux is too complicated", so instead of learning to adapt to a new system, you adapt to just accepting that you dont fully get to control your devices a they will get progressively worse until eventually you have to get a whole new device. SMH
wrote last edited by [email protected]Good luck keeping root access with your GrapheneOS auto-update.
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Seriously this. I don't understand why suffering through manufacturers, customized skins and os's makes any sense when lineage is such a solid option.
Lineage on my phone Linux on my computers degoogling services running on a micro cluster. It's never been easier to get away from big tech.
My previous phone wasn't compatible with lineage nor any of the other popular android derivatives.
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My previous phone wasn't compatible with lineage nor any of the other popular android derivatives.
That is part of why I only buy pixel phones used these days. I can get a last years flagship for 1/2 price, and I know it will run Lineage or Graphene. Given I generally hold onto a phone for about 4 years it ends up being a great value.
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Yea, that's a Windows Home thing.
Upgrade to pro, where that stuff doesn't exist.
Not to justify it, but the thinking by MS is "this OS is free, so you get ads", like commercial TV or the rest of the nonsense on the internet.
Also, I've run Windows with updates disabled since Windows XP, and have rarely run into problems. I say this as someone who's been in IT since the early 90's. I've seen 10x more problems caused by updates at work than anything else.
At home I enable updates every 6 months, then go manually grab the updates I need, or else it'll update things that will break my system.
Even better if you can get your hands on an Enterprise key. Even more configurable and is doesn’t have some of the annoying items.
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We're getting close to the point where "running a stock ROM" is on the same level of inadvisable as "using a web browser without ad blocking". The latter of which was, btw, also not that big if a deal like ten or fifteen years ago.
It was sort of a big deal. The forbes malware injection attack by ads was ten years ago. It still ranks as one of the most hilarious 'poetic irony' bits in computer security. I'm sure ads were doing other insidious shit in 2010 that just went unnoticed because it didn't hit security researchers.
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I routinely get a Samsung notification telling me to agree to some new agreement thing. I swipe it away. It just reappears in 48 hours or so. I swipe it away. We've danced this dance for years.
I don't know what it's for, I don't care, and things are just fine as is. There's nothing it it for me so, no.
wrote last edited by [email protected]I use an app specifically designed to automatically dismiss notifications and I use it to dismiss this Samsung one you mentioned and the voice mail notification, which for some ridiculous reason can't be disabled.
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Good luck keeping root access with your GrapheneOS auto-update.
Your comment doesnt make any sense, i wouldnt want root access from GrapheneOS, that would break pretty much all of the security benefits.
The point is to not need to use expliots and break security just to configure your device how you want in the first place.
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I feel Windows 10 and 11, which I am forced to use on various work computers, represent a new era of impossible to predict UI behavior. Like, hats off if that was intended, they succeeded. I can't make heads or tails of anything anymore, and the things I want are several options deep now.
I've been an IT professional for nearly 30 years and it seems like every new version of Windows they do everything they can to make me feel like an idiot who has never used a computer before. Simple things like turning off the computer isn't intuitive. I only use Windows at work now, my personal computers are all either linux or MacOS... and I just installed linux on my old 2012 Macbook and 'it just (mostly) works'.
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Yea, that's a Windows Home thing.
Upgrade to pro, where that stuff doesn't exist.
Not to justify it, but the thinking by MS is "this OS is free, so you get ads", like commercial TV or the rest of the nonsense on the internet.
Also, I've run Windows with updates disabled since Windows XP, and have rarely run into problems. I say this as someone who's been in IT since the early 90's. I've seen 10x more problems caused by updates at work than anything else.
At home I enable updates every 6 months, then go manually grab the updates I need, or else it'll update things that will break my system.
I don’t use my Windows 10 desktop a ton, but I’ve definitely gotten the full page “Update to Windows 11” screen a few times, and it has Windows 10 Pro installed.
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The worst thing is the past few years android updates brought fuckall exciting new stuff and just more spyware and worse performance .
Yeah, I was using stock pixel launcher forever until the most recent "update" that added yet another button to the search bar that you can't remove, that I used daily, and the button went conveniently right where my right thumb tapped. Switched to Lawnchair, and it's not without issue. Why can't shit that has worked just continue to work the same way?
