So proud!
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I like how OOP gets the name wrong also. Shane not Shawn. It really makes it feel extra condescending.
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Can someone mansplain mansplaining to me? It seems like any time someone with a beard inhales sharply.
Kind of like how manspreading is men sitting down.
And the male gaze is men looking at things.
Probably bait, but I’ll take it anyways.
Mansplaining is when you make an assumption that a woman doesn’t know something basic and fundamental about a topic, and then explain it to them like they’re an idiot or a child. You may not even be aware you’re doing it as a man, because misogyny is ingrained into our culture and social conditioning. Such is the nature of microaggressions; you do them without realizing, because it’s a bias that has become so baked into your worldview as to become subconscious.
It’s easy to avoid doing, though. Anytime you’re about to explain something, to a woman or otherwise, simply first ask if they are familiar with ‘x topic’. If the answer is yes, proceed without explanation, if the answer is no, explain as you would to anyone else without condescension. It’s literally that easy.
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My wife has accused me of mansplaining when I really was just sharing the information I had in my head about "the thing" because I was proud of myself about that.
There's also the "You may already know all this, but it's worth saying out loud anyway."
I'm not saying mansplaining isn't a thing - it certainly is - but there are other innocent "info dump" kinds of things that can look like mansplaining but weren't intended to be. I try to be very clear about why I am info dumping when I do, but I'm not always able to catch myself in time.
#TouchOfTheTism
Yeah the intention is far easier to sus out when it's in person, especially with a known person. I'm a woman and I have ADHD and I do this to my husband all the time.
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Probably bait, but I’ll take it anyways.
Mansplaining is when you make an assumption that a woman doesn’t know something basic and fundamental about a topic, and then explain it to them like they’re an idiot or a child. You may not even be aware you’re doing it as a man, because misogyny is ingrained into our culture and social conditioning. Such is the nature of microaggressions; you do them without realizing, because it’s a bias that has become so baked into your worldview as to become subconscious.
It’s easy to avoid doing, though. Anytime you’re about to explain something, to a woman or otherwise, simply first ask if they are familiar with ‘x topic’. If the answer is yes, proceed without explanation, if the answer is no, explain as you would to anyone else without condescension. It’s literally that easy.
“Doesn’t know something basic and fundamental”?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mansplaining
asked if she had "heard about the very important Muybridge book that came out this year"—not considering that it might be (as, in fact, it was) Solnit's book
He didn’t know she was the author. I mean, that’s a pretty simple mistake to make. I wouldn’t assume someone I’m casually speaking to at a party is the author of the particular book on the particular subject we are chatting about. What are the odds?
But somehow this is extrapolated to any time any man monologues. And implicitly that only men do this, and only to women. Let me blow your mind: sometimes men bloviate to other men. And sometimes women do this to men.
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Can someone mansplain mansplaining to me? It seems like any time someone with a beard inhales sharply.
Kind of like how manspreading is men sitting down.
And the male gaze is men looking at things.
wrote last edited by [email protected]The only place I see those terms used to describe benign behavior is in rage bait. My guess is that you haven't heard someone use those terms in a serious way because of an internet bubble or something.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mansplaining
Wikipedia says it originated as a call out for internalized misogyny, but now is used very generally.I bet you could find info on the rest pretty easily.
Also its real ironic that your comment meets the definition of mansplaining lol.
"(for a man) to comment on or explain something, to a woman, in a condescending, overconfident, and often inaccurate or oversimplified manner".[1][2][3][4]
I'm not a woman though, but if any read your comment then you meet the strict definition lol.
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The only place I see those terms used to describe benign behavior is in rage bait. My guess is that you haven't heard someone use those terms in a serious way because of an internet bubble or something.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mansplaining
Wikipedia says it originated as a call out for internalized misogyny, but now is used very generally.I bet you could find info on the rest pretty easily.
Also its real ironic that your comment meets the definition of mansplaining lol.
"(for a man) to comment on or explain something, to a woman, in a condescending, overconfident, and often inaccurate or oversimplified manner".[1][2][3][4]
I'm not a woman though, but if any read your comment then you meet the strict definition lol.
Asking someone to explain mansplaining is mansplaining. Got it.
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Can someone mansplain mansplaining to me? It seems like any time someone with a beard inhales sharply.
Kind of like how manspreading is men sitting down.
And the male gaze is men looking at things.
Mansplaining is when you explain a subject to a woman as if she doesn't know it, when she would be fully expected to know it. An example would be a man without an astrophysics degree explaining astrophysics with condescension to a woman with an astrophysics degree. It sounds silly but I've seen it happen, more often than not it happens online though because terminally online people tend to be more condescending.
Manspreading is more often when dudes intentionally take up more sitting space than they clearly need in public when it's obvious there is enough space for additional people. Often it's a lack of self awareness.
Male gaze is the way women are most often portrayed in visual arts and media from a heterosexual, masculine perspective, often objectifying them as sexual objects for the pleasure of the male viewer. It suggests that media is often constructed and consumed from a male perspective.
Hell, even a lot of sexualization of men is from the male perspective. Having spoken to a lot of women about how they experience attraction, most aren't very interested in the hypermasculine view of the male "ideal body" and are far more interested in certain behaviors and mannerisms, or even just the look of their face and hands, rather than everything else.
I'm writing this not as an argument, but as taking your questions in good faith. I hope it was in good faith.
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I am very guilty of asking people if they know about something then telling them anyway.
Too many cases of people confidently telling me they know about computers, point to the monitor and tell me it's a CPU, then proudly call the computer under their desk the hard drive. The only reason their "CPU" won't turn on being they need to press the power button on the monitor.
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Actually a pretty weak comeback, IMO. Just generically dismissive and rude with neither cleverness nor specificity. About the same level of sophistication as telling someone to shut up. There are better ways to be patronizing.
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Actually a pretty weak comeback, IMO. Just generically dismissive and rude with neither cleverness nor specificity. About the same level of sophistication as telling someone to shut up. There are better ways to be patronizing.
That's right, ArbitraryValve! Good catch, nicely done bud!
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Asking someone to explain mansplaining is mansplaining. Got it.
Homie I gotta stop biting. If you can't see how your comment was:
- overconfident
- inaccurate
- oversimplified
- and could be read as condescending
Idk what to tell ya.
Good luck out there.
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This is just a good approach. I treat humans like cute animals. Not gonna get bit by a bunny and hope it burns in hell.
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Can someone mansplain mansplaining to me? It seems like any time someone with a beard inhales sharply.
Kind of like how manspreading is men sitting down.
And the male gaze is men looking at things.
Mansplaining is when you are a male and you open your mouth to say something. It might have been used properly in the past but now it's just a buzzword used to silence people.
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“Doesn’t know something basic and fundamental”?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mansplaining
asked if she had "heard about the very important Muybridge book that came out this year"—not considering that it might be (as, in fact, it was) Solnit's book
He didn’t know she was the author. I mean, that’s a pretty simple mistake to make. I wouldn’t assume someone I’m casually speaking to at a party is the author of the particular book on the particular subject we are chatting about. What are the odds?
But somehow this is extrapolated to any time any man monologues. And implicitly that only men do this, and only to women. Let me blow your mind: sometimes men bloviate to other men. And sometimes women do this to men.
Funny, you cut off the important bit right before that quote where the man cut her off as she was about to explain her most recent book. Here’s a bit of context:
“She began to talk about her most recent, on Eadweard Muybridge, whereupon the man cut her off and asked if she had "heard about the very important Muybridge book that came out this year"—not considering that it might be (as, in fact, it was) Solnit's book.
See how the context changes the situation? She was already speaking, and the man cut her off, assuming she was unaware, and explained to her something that he would have learned to be unnecessary if he had simply treated her as a conversation partner to be listened to, rather than something to be narrated at.
I can already tell I’m not going to be able to convince you, though. In order to support your point (and, perhaps, avoid any self-reflection) you’ve ignored nuance - generally bad practice when talking about the intricacies of social interaction. Certainly, men monologue to men, men monologue to women, women monologue to men, and women monologue to women, but much like when people equivocate the fear of sexual assault to the fear of false accusations, the thing being ignored is the amount that these things happen; they are not equivalent.
To be absolutely clear: I am a man. An autistic man, even. One who loves to learn, loves to info-dump, and has more female friends than male. In all my time info-dumping to my female friends, I have never once been accused of mansplaining, because I ask before I explain to ascertain their knowledge, and I actually listen when they speak.
Funny how that works.
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Asking someone to explain mansplaining is mansplaining. Got it.
You asked, but then gave three inaccurate statements that have already had detailed answers about the meaning. It isn't mansplaining because you weren't directing it at a woman, but the comment as a whole would fit the definition if it was directed at a woman.
Can someone mansplain mansplaining to me? It seems like any time someone with a beard inhales sharply.
Kind of like how manspreading is men sitting down.
And the male gaze is men looking at things.
All three terms are more nuanced than that even if some people ignore the context and use them in a sexist way against men in general. There will always be a number of people who use words incorrectly.
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Remember boys, the ppl that think like this are the ones that will try to prevent you from a fair shot at everything. Get ready to be discriminated against and simply record everything so it can be documented online and in the courts. Dont engage with them - just expose their behavior and choices.
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That's right, ArbitraryValve! Good catch, nicely done bud!
Oh yeah, serves smug shutlibs of course
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Men do mensplain but they do it most if you are a week "cute girl". In my line of work I have to be kind of a bitch (not asshole just not girly), if I'm cute I won't get anything done. Nobody mensplain anything to a bitch. They roll their eyes and just do whater you want fast so you cam go away.
In my private life I'm usually the one womensplaing
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Oh yeah, serves smug shutlibs of course
Cmon buddy, you set yourself up for that one. Do you really sob politics everytime your chain gets jerked little?
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I often explain stuff for others so they can verify my information, it also gives me another chance to go over the idea in my head.
