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Brave browser blocks Windows feature that takes screenshots of everything you do on your PC

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  • B [email protected]

    Running Linux would block this feature too.

    Just reason sayin.

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    #194

    Tbf, anything that isn't AI Windows blocks the feature. Including regular Windows.

    People just need to not fall for the scam edition and they don't have to deal with this shit.

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    • K [email protected]

      You use Linux? Here take this you've earned it 🍪

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      #195

      What if they always decline cookies? Or is this cookie one of those necessary ones?

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      • E [email protected]

        It's probably the best chromium browser out there

        Firefox has done shit too

        sadly we don't have a lot of choice, but they're one of the least worse

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        Just don't use Chromium unless you for some reason absolutely have to. Mozilla is just another corporation, but they're not exactly threatening to monopolise the internet. Google is, and using Chromium directly aids in their effort to do so.

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          It's probably the best chromium browser out there

          Firefox has done shit too

          sadly we don't have a lot of choice, but they're one of the least worse

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          #197

          Firefox has done shit too

          Firefox has injected my URLs with affiliate codes?

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          • H [email protected]

            That’s not even the worst thing about him. He also invented JavaScript.

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            That's it, brave is getting uninstalled from my PC NOW.

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            • O [email protected]

              Sadly, quite a few things. Here's a few:

              • Application support; some popular software is built with Windows in mind.
              • One-click installers; Software usually comes with user-friendly installation wizards. No command lines or dependency juggling. Also better compatibility woth past versions
              • Driver availability; Linux is getting better, but Windows is superior
              • Better peripheral support like for printers, webcams, game controllers.
              • Gaming performance; although Linux is gaining ground, Windows is just better in this regard
              • Media codecs and formats; again, Linux is getting better, but this isn't always an out-of-the-box experience
              • Business integration; Windows plays nicely with enterprise tools like Active Directory, Microsoft 365, and legacy business apps.

              Don't get me wrong. I use Linux as my daily driver. That also means I get frustrated on occasion when again I must consult man pages instead of just running a troubleshooter or fiddling with Nvidia drivers instead of just running the game.

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              #199

              Media codecs and formats

              Got burned by this recently, was trying to use MPV for playing a YT vid, and it had no video but had audio. Turns out Fedora comes with an open-source or smth version of H264 encoders, so I had to uninstall those packages for the official Cisco ones. But I was on atomic and it wasn't fun so I ran to forums for help.

              Driver availability

              Not sure if it's the driver or the kernel (maybe dual-booting? But it worked on both partitions originally...) but my Bluetooth is nuked on my Linux partition. I tried to do rfkill, btusb, systemctl, etc. and the only solution I got was to rollback to an older release of Fedora atomic because it's most likely a kernel issue. That just sucks man, having to be stuck on an older version to get my earbuds to work lol. I didn't like atomic and now I'm on reg KDE Fedora, so I'm truly fucked as that's not a rollback distro.

              I still love using Fedora (every time I boot into Windows I cry) and it just makes me love my laptop like it's brand-new. Tinkering is fun to me, I'll literally sit at my desk and starve myself while trying to get something to work. But some days, I want my stuff to work with minimal tinkering, and not have to worry if it'll break when I really need it down the line.

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                This is about the Smart App Control feature in Win11 that takes screenshots periodically to check for "malicious activity". its basically a glorified keylogger built into the OS. Firefox should really follow suit and block this too.

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                • K [email protected]

                  Firefox has done shit too

                  Firefox has injected my URLs with affiliate codes?

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                  Nope, but it put a closed source Mr Robot plugin without asking anyone

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                  • dojan@pawb.socialD [email protected]

                    Just don't use Chromium unless you for some reason absolutely have to. Mozilla is just another corporation, but they're not exactly threatening to monopolise the internet. Google is, and using Chromium directly aids in their effort to do so.

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                    It's not that bad. Sure, having more choice is good, but it's not as life threatening as you make it seem

                    Using android and stock ROMs is a bigger problem

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                    • E [email protected]

                      Uh... no? It just puts sponsored backgrounds when you open new tabs or windows notifications if you opt-in

                      It never replaced ads in websites afaik

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                      https://ads.brave.com/

                      They're not actively replacing elements on a web page, but they're still getting paid to show you ads and you can opt in for some crypto nonsense.

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                        it’s bad enough.

                        This is debatable. i find some that people hate on AI and crypto regardless of it's implementation

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                        I'm as crypto bro as they come. Fuck Brave, BAT is a pay-to-surf scam.

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                        • A [email protected]

                          https://ads.brave.com/

                          They're not actively replacing elements on a web page, but they're still getting paid to show you ads and you can opt in for some crypto nonsense.

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                          Sure, so? It's still opt-in, and by default it sends the generated crypto money to creators and websites you visit

                          If you don't like it, don't enable it? They're pretty transparent about how it works overall

                          They have pretty much abandoned this feature anyways

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                          • M [email protected]

                            This is about the Smart App Control feature in Win11 that takes screenshots periodically to check for "malicious activity". its basically a glorified keylogger built into the OS. Firefox should really follow suit and block this too.

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                            Holy shit, what a comment!

                            This is about the Smart App Control

                            It's not, it's about Recall.

                            that takes screenshots periodically to check for “malicious activity”

                            It doesn't. Smar App Control does code validation and reputation check. Recall makes screenshots, OCR's them and keeps them in an encrypted vault for the user to interact with.

                            built into the OS

                            It's not, you can turn both off at any time.

                            its basically a glorified keylogger

                            It's not, it fundamentally is NOT, because it doesn't log any keystrokes. SAC isn't even in the picture here, while Recall literally only makes screenshots, runs OCR and encrypts that.

                            Fuck me, where do you people get this bullshit from? It used to be "oh no, Microsoft will be making screenshots of your activity and sending them to their servers" not so long ago which, while still bullshit, was at least in the same ballpark as what Recall does.

                            Now you're throwing SAC into the mix somehow?

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                            • tattorack@lemmy.worldT [email protected]

                              The better option would be to not use spyware as an operating system.

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                              Do you consider any form of telemetry "spyware"?

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                              • G [email protected]

                                Linux blocks that "feature" too...

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                                #208

                                What feature? Recall?? That's Windows 11-specific and hasn't even launched yet??

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                                • A [email protected]

                                  Brave browser blocks Windows feature that takes screenshots of everything you do on your PC

                                  As does Linux.

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                                  OK, you need to explain to me how tf does Linux block something that works only on Windows.

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                                  • E [email protected]

                                    It's not that bad. Sure, having more choice is good, but it's not as life threatening as you make it seem

                                    Using android and stock ROMs is a bigger problem

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                                    I think it's a compounding issue, primarily of Google products just kind of being the "default."

                                    Google pays to be the primary search engine in Firefox, on iOS, and sets themselves as the default on their operating systems. They, wherever possible also set their browser as default. Yes, Chromium is open source, but they have the ultimate final say, and no one seems to have the interest in forking it. This puts Google in a similar position that Microsoft was in in the 90s and early 00s, where they can essentially hijack the web and force their ideas through whether others want to or not.

                                    We saw this with Google forcing Manifest v3, all Chromium-based browsers essentially just had to follow suit. That was just Manifest v3 however, who's to say what else they'll do?

                                    Then there's my tinfoil hat worry that Google essentially being the window to the web for so many people, on an OS, browser, and discoverability level is just overall a cause for worry. That's not even considering their communications and media platforms.

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                                      They shit on it because just like Mozilla, they made some shit decision by making some shady partnerships, and because the CEO is transphobic/homophobic/can't remember

                                      Apart from the usual bullshit and antifeatures it has, it's still a great browser choice, just like Firefox

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                                      "Just like Mozilla".

                                      Let's compare.

                                      Mozilla: installed a closed-source plugin once, and then apologised for it.

                                      Brave CEO: actively supports homophobic organisations, donates money to them, injects affiliate links to stores, whenever given a microphone will say something bigoted and homophobic.

                                      Yeah, it's totally the same exact issue with both browsers!

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                                      • E [email protected]

                                        A device that surreptitiously gathers information on a target is called a bug, not a feature.

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                                        So, you're saying that browsing history, in literally any browser on the market, is a bug not a feature?

                                        surreptitiously

                                        Oh, wait, I actually missed that! How is something that you need to purposefully turn on "surreptitious"? Like... Holy fuck, people, this is supposed to be the community of tech-literate people, so maybe stop fear-mongering in read about Recall a bit? It's opt-in, it's limited to a (as of now) extremely small number of NPU-carrying devices, it's offline.

                                        If you don't like it, just don't fucking turn it on.

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                                        • alaknar@sopuli.xyzA [email protected]

                                          OK, you need to explain to me how tf does Linux block something that works only on Windows.

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                                          No Windows, no such Windows "features".

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