Brave browser blocks Windows feature that takes screenshots of everything you do on your PC
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It's opt-in for now, how many times do we have to play this game?
I'll keep using Firefox with uBo to actually block ads instead of a browser that's running its own ad delivery system.
Brave has a built in ad blocker
at this point you're just hating on brave for nothing
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nothing is perfect, except the horseshoe crab. however both librewolf and cromite are great with ublock, and ltsc windows has no copilot since companies use that edition.
Librewolf is too restrictive and not suitable for everyday browsing. I hate it.
never tested cromite
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It doesn't tick #3, hence why I use a Firefox browser as my main. If they had their own rendering engine, I would consider it as my main. But for now, it's my backup in case I need a website that doesn't work on Firefox (i.e. they use something Chrome-specific).
Valid point then. We need compatibility with gecko, I always found it better looking than chromium
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I don't think taking screenshots of everything you do every few seconds is telemetry.
It's not, but it's also not spyware - it's local, encrypted, AND optional.
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Holy shit, what a comment!
This is about the Smart App Control
It's not, it's about Recall.
that takes screenshots periodically to check for “malicious activity”
It doesn't. Smar App Control does code validation and reputation check. Recall makes screenshots, OCR's them and keeps them in an encrypted vault for the user to interact with.
built into the OS
It's not, you can turn both off at any time.
its basically a glorified keylogger
It's not, it fundamentally is NOT, because it doesn't log any keystrokes. SAC isn't even in the picture here, while Recall literally only makes screenshots, runs OCR and encrypts that.
Fuck me, where do you people get this bullshit from? It used to be "oh no, Microsoft will be making screenshots of your activity and sending them to their servers" not so long ago which, while still bullshit, was at least in the same ballpark as what Recall does.
Now you're throwing SAC into the mix somehow?
I worry that the prevalence of ill-informed hot-takes dilutes the validity of complaints, and I appreciate your work here
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Honestly it largely is.
Personally I like sharing crash reports, but even then, the user should be able to turn that off if you like.
Telemetry should be 100% opt-in.
Honestly it largely is.
I mean, by definition, it isn't.
It's anonymous and not malicious in nature. It's a diagnostic and engagement measuring tool.
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how the hell do you not?
I don't know, maybe because I understand the definition of "spyware" and "telemetry"?
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It's not, but it's also not spyware - it's local, encrypted, AND optional.
wrote last edited by [email protected]Microsoft is known for making things “optional” at first then eventually forcing it down everyone’s throats. Removing offline accounts is one of them.
It’s not so much the technology itself is malware, but its behavior replicates that of malware.
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No way they'd do that though, because then they'd have the mouse and the other members of the content mafia breathing down their necks.
It's an image every few seconds. Not that piracy is currently even interested in tech that reencodes the content.
And for training, copyrighted stuff is already everywhere; AI tools seem to be limited on the output side rather than raw training data. -
Do you consider any form of telemetry "spyware"?
You consider actual, literal spyware as being merely telemetry?
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It's an image every few seconds. Not that piracy is currently even interested in tech that reencodes the content.
And for training, copyrighted stuff is already everywhere; AI tools seem to be limited on the output side rather than raw training data.wrote last edited by [email protected]Sure it wouldnt be rational to care about DRM being broken a small amount allowing limited amount of copyright material to be copied.
What do you think their response would be?
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In this thread something I see a lot on lemmy is happening. Maybe someone can give me a hint on how that happens. The post itself is 90% upvotes, while the comment section is really anti-Brave (for good reasons). Do most upvotes come from people scrolling through without looking at the comment section and those with an opinion on the topic dive into it?
I upvote the post because I support the feature, and would like to see more browsers implement more privacy focused features.
I upvote the anti-Brave comments, because fuck Brave.
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Just avoid using an “AI” cpu.
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Switching to Hannah Montana Linux made me hear The Best of Both Worlds again.
I want to use Corey in the House Linux
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Honestly it largely is.
I mean, by definition, it isn't.
It's anonymous and not malicious in nature. It's a diagnostic and engagement measuring tool.
diagnostic
I think it is useful to send crash reports, but the user should have power over it (see: when macOS generates a crash report, it asks the user if they would like to send it)
engagement measuring
That is your data they are taking to make money off of without your consent, and I consider that malicious. There are ways to do that with consent. See: Steam’s annual hardware survey
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The post itself is reasonable quality and informative so I find it upvote worthy. If a post is low quality or a shit post then I downvote.
To me the karma system is about quality. Not an "I agree/disagree" button.
For comments I only down vote obvious trolls, bigots/racism etc.
Well, one could argue if just posting a link with a title is a 'quality' post. But the topic is still worth a discussion so I don't see why it should be downvoted.
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Librewolf is too restrictive and not suitable for everyday browsing. I hate it.
never tested cromite
im pretty sure you can disable a ton of stuff in the options menu
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The fact that the dev behind brave is a homophobe isn't opt in though...
It's also just another flavor of chromium so it still helps Google maintain their monopoly.
Anyone trying to de-google needs to be using Firefox.
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I don't know, maybe because I understand the definition of "spyware" and "telemetry"?
Well, semantically yes, not all telemetry is spyware. However regarding Windows telemetry it's indistinguishable from spyware - you have no idea nor control over the data gathered, measured and processed.
The crux is that Windows telemetry is opt out, opting out can't be done during installation, and historically opting out wasn't sticky. Additionally some Windows telemetry is still being sent despite opting out.
That makes Windows telemetry fulfill all spyware criteria.
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im pretty sure you can disable a ton of stuff in the options menu
Yeah but for example fingerprinting is either fully on or fully off
Switching defaults hurt fingerprinting more than it helps so at that point might as well stay with the default firefox
