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  • spankmonkey@lemmy.worldS [email protected]

    Tagging people to let them know they exist is not forcing them on anyone.

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    I really don’t care to argue the point. Read up, if you care to argue it in court

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      If the intent is to shock or harm, or it can be argued that way, it’s usually best to avoid. If you care to read up, you're welcome to it.

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      To win an IIED claim, you need to prove the sender’s behavior was extreme and outrageous, they acted with intent to cause you severe emotional distress or with reckless disregard for that possibility, and that you suffered severe emotional distress as a result.

      Another legal ground is invasion of privacy, specifically a claim for “intrusion upon seclusion.” This recognizes that individuals have a right to be left alone in their private affairs. Your direct messages, email inbox, and text message threads are considered private spaces. When someone intentionally intrudes by sending offensive material, it can be viewed as a highly offensive invasion of your privacy.

      It would seem a very difficult argument to apply in this case.

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      • pugjesus@lemmy.worldP [email protected]

        To win an IIED claim, you need to prove the sender’s behavior was extreme and outrageous, they acted with intent to cause you severe emotional distress or with reckless disregard for that possibility, and that you suffered severe emotional distress as a result.

        Another legal ground is invasion of privacy, specifically a claim for “intrusion upon seclusion.” This recognizes that individuals have a right to be left alone in their private affairs. Your direct messages, email inbox, and text message threads are considered private spaces. When someone intentionally intrudes by sending offensive material, it can be viewed as a highly offensive invasion of your privacy.

        It would seem a very difficult argument to apply in this case.

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        But not impossible. It’s just an unnecessary risk.

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          She had more balls than him

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          • G [email protected]

            I really don’t care to argue the point. Read up, if you care to argue it in court

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            It varies by country, but in south Africa for example, you don't have to prove emotional distress, the law is clear in stating that exposing someone to genitalia, anus or female breast without consent (provided it is deliberate) is an offense.

            So you're right, but in some countries, you're more right than others.

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              I really don’t care to argue the point. Read up, if you care to argue it in court

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              That link is talking about sending images. I am saying that tagging is not sending images.

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              • spankmonkey@lemmy.worldS [email protected]

                That link is talking about sending images. I am saying that tagging is not sending images.

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                I really don’t see a meaningful distinction, but even less do I care to argue the point

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                  It varies by country, but in south Africa for example, you don't have to prove emotional distress, the law is clear in stating that exposing someone to genitalia, anus or female breast without consent (provided it is deliberate) is an offense.

                  So you're right, but in some countries, you're more right than others.

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                  Breasts as well? That’s surprising. How accepted are trans people in South Africa? Because there might be some confusing times ahead.

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                    To be clear, both of these things are sex crimes, so don’t draw any major lessons from either side, aside from “don’t fuck with people.”

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                    I read your link below and do not understand what you mean by sex crime for sharing your own nude images (with adults). The link mentions a law for your own nude images being shared without consent, but that and everything else just guides a path to sue in civil court.

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                      To be clear, both of these things are sex crimes, so don’t draw any major lessons from either side, aside from “don’t fuck with people.”

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                      No, the lesson is not to be filth and blackmail your partner(s).

                      I sincerely doubt it’s a crime to upload your own nudes to OnlyFans and then tell your abusive ex-partner’s family, “hey, this is a link to the nude pictures your child threatened to post online if I broke up with them”. My grandma has accidentally shared worse things with me than that

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                        I really don’t see a meaningful distinction, but even less do I care to argue the point

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                        You gonna put someone in jail if they tell you nude photos exist? Lmao

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                          Playa Hater!

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                            To an audience that isn’t interested in seeing them, yeah. They require consent, otherwise it’s a sex crime not dissimilar to flashing. I can’t remember the specific term. Non-consensual something or other.

                            Edit: I still can’t remember but the word “brandishing” keeps hopping to the forefront of my mind, and brandishing tits sounds hilarious

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                            Username checks out.

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                            • deceptichum@quokk.auD [email protected]

                              Every morning I human traffic myself to work.

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                              I mean... If it's somewhere you don't want to be...

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                                It varies by country, but in south Africa for example, you don't have to prove emotional distress, the law is clear in stating that exposing someone to genitalia, anus or female breast without consent (provided it is deliberate) is an offense.

                                So you're right, but in some countries, you're more right than others.

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                                Do infants consent to breast feeding? I’m sorry, I know you didn’t write the law

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                                  Link or it didn't happen

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                                  the post is from 2015 so good luck to find it

                                  here is the post on the internet archive as a starting point:
                                  https://web.archive.org/web/20170624194401/http://rarestandfairest.tumblr.com/post/115047018790/i-had-an-ex-boyfriend-threaten-to-publish-my-nudes

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                                    I mean... If it's somewhere you don't want to be...

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                                    Plus you're usually getting fucked in some way.

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                                      So... what did you say that link was?

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                                        So... what did you say that link was?

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                                        Right here

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                                          Breasts as well? That’s surprising. How accepted are trans people in South Africa? Because there might be some confusing times ahead.

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                                          I know you're making a bad faith argument, but I will answer anyway.

                                          Trans people are accepted in south Africa, and offered many legal protections, including official recognition status of their preferred gender (there are certain prerequisites required to change your gender, but I don't know what those are, I just know people who have done so). Should someone undergo gender re-assignment, and have the gender changed on their ID, it would or would not be an offense based on what gender they have transitioned to at the time the incident had occurred.

                                          South African law is pretty forward thinking in many aspects regarding discrimination, primarily because of how racial discrimination has massively featured in our history.

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