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How can we make the Fediverse more positive and wholesome?

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    Mandatory fursona creation required upon account activation.

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      When you've been shown facts that contradict your argument, concede politely. People will respect you for it. In fact they'll probably respect you more than if you go down endless chains of trying to save face.

      Remember, this should go both ways. There will be times when people concede to you, and other times when you need to concede.

      I don't think it needs to take very many people doing this to create a snowball effect where it becomes the common way to debate.

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        ban Nazi's and defederate from fascist instances.

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        Do you have examples of fascists instances so i can block them?

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          In a world where trolling was done as a recreational activity, this was a good strategy. This is not that world anymore, though, this is a world where right wing fight clubs are popping up in dozens of countries. Trolls are no longer recreational, they're trying to slowly and gradually change the world in their image.

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          You're right that it seems trolling is "weaponized" now. However, I (optimistically) don't want to (cynically) admit weaponized trolling is the rule instead of the exception.

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            Sorry... I know that is not the answer you were looking for, but it felt right, and sometimes you just have to go where your heart leads you.

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              Mandatory fursona creation required upon account activation.

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              Pawb.Social: Write that down! Write that down!

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                it's cool though because the fediverse has no incentives to increase engagement which means our ragebait is all organic and free of the profit motive!

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                "I am angry entirely for personal pleasure, not for profit."

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                  Change the world to be less hostile toward ordinary people. Improve general conditions and decrease inequality. I know it's a tall order, but it's a pretty big step toward people being less angry, aggrieved, and sullen.

                  More attainable, and not applicable to everyone (but works on me), more pics of kittens and puppies and other cute critters. Sorry that I don't have a more actionable philosophical suggestion.

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                    Hmm, maybe some more diversity? Right now it seems to be mostly hypernerds who use fediverse services. When was "Ask Lemmy" about web development questions.. you know

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                      Do you have examples of fascists instances so i can block them?

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                      I know you're trolling but I'm vicious like this.

                      *.ml

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                      sh.it.just.works

                      I have ran into more fascist supporting shit heels from those instances than anywhere else.

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                        Implement a way for users to subscribe to an updating community/user blocklist. That way new users can get rid of all the crazies and block all the ml instances.

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                          Fix the world it exists in.

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                          "To make a cup of coffee, you must first invent the universe."

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                            1. Try not to fall into the trap of groupthink. The "reddit hive mind" was one of the worst things about our predecessor, and it seems to have followed us here.

                            2. Understand that humans are not, and never will be, perfect. Endless purity tests do not accomplish anything other than turning away newcomers.

                            3. For the love of God, pick up a hobby. My feed on any given day is 99.8% US politics and activism. I'm not saying that these things aren't important, but it gets exhausting when it's the only thing people want to discuss.

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                              There's two subreddits I really miss: AskScience and AskHistorians. I was a regular and flaired contributor to AskScience, but its super helpful to generate a response when there's a good question. It would feel weird opining on a random science topic that I come up with. And I loved the well sourced AskHistorians posts. When I do see a c/AskHistorian post on Lemmy the responses are very low effort

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                                I know you're trolling but I'm vicious like this.

                                *.ml

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                                sh.it.just.works

                                I have ran into more fascist supporting shit heels from those instances than anywhere else.

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                                seriously? I'd expect .ml (and hexbear, but you didn't mention that one), but the others have been quite excellent in my experience.

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                                  Mandatory fursona creation required upon account activation.

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                                  I'm not a furry because I don't have a fursona. To have a fursona I'd have to choose one of my oc's to elevate above the rest.

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                                    we require men to read a single feminism book, just one /j

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                                      My thought process:

                                      1. Post wholesome content. You need to be providing what you want to see, first and foremost. Provocative content is easy engagement, but wholesome stuff is both a little harder to find and to get people to interact with.

                                      2. Support other people doing what you like. See a post you like with no or low comments? Leave a comment to show that person other people want more. Likes are nice and all, but I personally post things I'm interested in and want to discuss. If I get likes, but nobody is talking with me, I get bored and feel like posting less.

                                      3. Clarify when you post or comment. If you're sharing an opinion, make that clear. If you're interested in a subject but understand you aren't an expert, make sure you're not coming off as one. If you're bringing facts, support them with quotes and citations and be sure to credit others where it's due.

                                      4. Respect constructive discussions. If people are rude, feel free to ignore them. No one wants to see 2 stubborn randos arguing in a thread though. If people give counterpoints or ask questions of your opinion, return the politeness given or steer it back to positive interior you feel it isn't.

                                      5. Discipline is required if I can't stick to my principles that I've outlined. If I think what I'm going to post is going to rule people up or if I think I'm saying too much about something I'm not very informed on, am I better off hitting cancel than post?

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                                      You are the most wholesome user i see around here, I love your posts lol =D

                                      If anyone's fit answering this question, it's you

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                                        When you've been shown facts that contradict your argument, concede politely. People will respect you for it. In fact they'll probably respect you more than if you go down endless chains of trying to save face.

                                        Remember, this should go both ways. There will be times when people concede to you, and other times when you need to concede.

                                        I don't think it needs to take very many people doing this to create a snowball effect where it becomes the common way to debate.

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                                        We should upvote to the moon any comment that concedes their original viewpoint.

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                                          we require men to read a single feminism book, just one /j

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                                          The Will To Change by bell hooks. It was the first time ever I felt seen as a human by a feminist writer.

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