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To be fair, paraphilias were listed in the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders as disorders before that definition was moved in DSM-5 to paraphilic disorder to be distinct from paraphilia (no longer de facto a disorder).
Anyway, pedophilia is a paraphilic disorder, which makes it a paraphilia and a mental disorder!
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But with the same logic, would you also say that gender incongruence is a mental disorder? It's in the same books, in similar sections. It's faux pas to call something a mental disorder without focusing on why it'd be that.The ICD (and I would hope the DSM) focuses mostly on the distress the patient gets from their condition. Someone's attraction to kids, without any actions, isn't enough to get diagnosed, as it's simply a paraphilia. If they're distressed by it, or act out, then it's a diagnostic criteria and something they'd be able to get treatment for.
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Miss me with that American junk
But with the same logic, would you also say that gender incongruence is a mental disorder? It's in the same books, in similar sections. It's faux pas to call something a mental disorder without focusing on why it'd be that.The ICD (and I would hope the DSM) focuses mostly on the distress the patient gets from their condition. Someone's attraction to kids, without any actions, isn't enough to get diagnosed, as it's simply a paraphilia. If they're distressed by it, or act out, then it's a diagnostic criteria and something they'd be able to get treatment for.
wrote last edited by [email protected]Gender incongruence may be in the same book now, but being in the book does not necessarily mean it is a disorder (e.g. paraphilia). In fact, in DSM-5, gender incongruence (they call it gender dysphoria) was actually renamed from "gender identity disorder" to avoid the word "disorder".
DSM-5 defines a paraphilic disorder as "a paraphilia that brings distress, or when satisfied, brings harm to self or others" (paraphrased). I think pedophilia fits that description, because "if satisfied", that's what we'd consider "bringing harm to others". Perhaps the ICD has a different definition?
I mean, I didn't set the standards or write the books. All of these things have way too much complexity to properly categorize in the ever-shifting standards of society in different geographic and cultural regions, so of course different countries and different experts would treat these things differently. That also means what counts as a "mental disorder" can vary wildly from region to region. I daresay this is a universe where you and I are both right on the matter!
I'm not sure about the criterion differences between the ICD and DSM-5, and I for sure do not know enough to be an authority on the matter.
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Either satire, extremely un-self-aware, or you're tacitly admitting to defending pedophiles. At least a certain pedo...
A bad joke may just be a joke, but it's also just bad.
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It's a sad moment in time, this is a political post
it's not politics.
it's sparkling corruption.
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I've seen too much right-wing LGBT = pedophilia propaganda to jump at this one.
Yeah. The criminal justice system doesn't always get it right, but it's still a better system than anyone being able to have anyone else lynched by calling them a pedo on unsafe evidence.
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A bad joke may just be a joke, but it's also just bad.
I thought it was quite funny, and very obviously a joke.
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I heckin' love the state's monopoly on violence!
I feel like the phrase "state monopoly on violence" has so many loaded words in it that people see it and assume it's a bad thing by definition, when in fact it describes a cornerstone of all civilized society.
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What about capitalist, pedophile nazis?
Thanks to the brave, strong internet tough guys at lemmy who totally aren't pathetic losers overcompensating for something, we have such brilliant hits as
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Who are these 64 people downvoting
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Who are these 64 people downvoting
TIL there are 64 pedos in lemmy
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Child sexual abuse triggers me into a violent rage as that is how I stopped my abusers as a child. No human scares me. Please do not harm children or the world will be full of violence. But also I agree with the comments saying pedophilia is a mental disorder. Also I do not condone violence against them. Please just stop abusing children.
You're a pedo in treatment and never touched a child, good.
You're a pedo who touched children, no more empathy, go straight to hell.
You're a pedo and the president of the USA? Time to burn the system to the ground
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You're a pedo in treatment and never touched a child, good.
You're a pedo who touched children, no more empathy, go straight to hell.
You're a pedo and the president of the USA? Time to burn the system to the ground
Fuck the system.
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Fuck the system.
Only if the system concents and is 18+
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TIL there are 64 pedos in lemmy
Pedophiles should be prosecuted in a court of law.
Also, The Bad Place's shitposting used this as an angle to recruit dummies into the right. Start with a popular statement and then link pedos to LGBT people etc. How subtle the rhetoric is varies, it frequently wasn't very.
Letting Lemmy develop the same self-righteous and performative circle jerk just isn't a great idea... Not that's it stopped any of the other circle jerking.
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I thought it was quite funny, and very obviously a joke.
Couldn't have been more obvious
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Idk man. People who are obsessed about "killing pedophiles" and wears a "shoot your local pedophile" t-shirt are, more often than not, extrememly right-wing anti-LGBT neo-nazis and think leftists and drag queens are, somehow, "pedophiles".
Pizzagate all over again.
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Child sexual abuse triggers me into a violent rage as that is how I stopped my abusers as a child. No human scares me. Please do not harm children or the world will be full of violence. But also I agree with the comments saying pedophilia is a mental disorder. Also I do not condone violence against them. Please just stop abusing children.
wrote last edited by [email protected]As someone who have been a victim of (non-sexual) child abuse, this is just extremely infuriating since I know what they go through, but what they go through is 100x worse. Horrible people like my parents just won't die soon enough. I hope my parents and those on the epstein list spend an eternity in hell.
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Pedophiles should be prosecuted in a court of law.
Also, The Bad Place's shitposting used this as an angle to recruit dummies into the right. Start with a popular statement and then link pedos to LGBT people etc. How subtle the rhetoric is varies, it frequently wasn't very.
Letting Lemmy develop the same self-righteous and performative circle jerk just isn't a great idea... Not that's it stopped any of the other circle jerking.
So, after the first line i totally agree with you
But about that girst line: a lot of pedophiles either are, or are above, the law. So they can't be meaningfulky prosecuted.
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I've seen too much right-wing LGBT = pedophilia propaganda to jump at this one.
Yeah. Which is wrird since our communities tend to be pretty good about taking care of that problem when it surfaces.
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Only if the system concents and is 18+
wrote last edited by [email protected]Okay but is rape as a weapon of terror during wartime as practiced on children still pedophilia if the perpetrator literally just punched a clock and popped a viagra or even military issued strap-on? or would that just be normal war crimes? Serious legal qiestion.
Also because i get the feeling a lot more people would be fans if it was.
