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  • C [email protected]

    Not the guy you're asking but I don't think it's related to encryption. I've had the same thing happen on my S24 with nothing encrypted

    Edit: I am wrong, see below

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    Your phone is encrypted by default, there's practically no way to not let it encrypt without unlocking the bootloader.

    Older phones that came out before the default encryption was standard were the ones that had the option to encrypt the phone or let it remain decrypted.

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      Why not? I remember buying phones that could be unlocked and had no issues with them updating after doing so.

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      Same. Why should bootloader unlock stop OTAs? Sure, i dont doubt that some manufacturer somewhere does this, but I would not expect it to be the norm.

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      • natenate60@lemmy.worldN [email protected]

        I would love to get GrapheneOS or some other similar OS but the lack of mobile tap-to-pay support just kills the idea for me.

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        I have this little offline only single purpose device that handles tap to pay for me. It is actually waterproof, survives falls, is light enough to not be noticed, and hasn't run out of battery in a few years.

        Jokes aside, what is wrong with good old plastic cards? If you don't want an extra wallet (which I need anyway to carry ids, drivers license, cash, emergency ear plugs, a handy sticker or two...), just get a phone case with card/cash slot thingies.

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          I’m definitely glad it and others like it exist. But for phones isn’t the issue more with low-level
          hardware and firmware? I bet we really need Google to make “Pixel” an open platform and not just a device, so that we can have the “IBM compatible” of phones. But I trust the Google of today to do the opposite.

          Maybe RISC-V is what I’m waiting for? An open phone is going to need to run the same software as Linux PCs to have all that good FOSS support, and I don’t think I’ve rad any rumors about x86 phones, lol.

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          Risc-V is not going to be any better. Technically, the ISA of Arm is very well documented. Sure, it is created and licensed out by a single company. But that doesn't matter when the device is either locked or has so many non-documented quirks and peripherals.

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            Risc-V is not going to be any better. Technically, the ISA of Arm is very well documented. Sure, it is created and licensed out by a single company. But that doesn't matter when the device is either locked or has so many non-documented quirks and peripherals.

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            Bah, but thanks for the info!

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              Am I the only here that smells bullshit/ragebait? When your phone has the bootloader unlocked and you're rooted, you simply cannot receive official software updates. That only works in custom roms.

              EDIT: It seems that for several people this is not the case. Guess I'm wrong then, but personally I've never received software update requests after rooting. Right now in my xperia 5v I literally can't even check to see if there is one. The only way to know is to look up my model in xperifirm.

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              I have a pixel 4a (yes, ik its eol, i use it more as a backup) that used to be rooted, until i got that shitty battery update, immediately switched to graphene.
              So yes you do still get updates on rooted

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                I always keep at least one notification so I don't have to see that stupid format on my lock screen.

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                You guys do know that there is an option in the settings to just always have the normal clock?

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                • N [email protected]

                  https://infosec.exchange/@ryanc/114901140203859448

                  i recomend this ancient talk: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HUEvRyemKSg

                  https://redirect.invidious.io/watch?v=HUEvRyemKSg

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                  I am an it at a company. Forcing updates is a necessity for some of our users. We have 5 year old phones which have never been updated, and needs to be for their software to work right.

                  That said what works in consumer space and what works in corporate is two different things. As a consumer I’d hate this and have moved away from preinstalled android years ago. But as IT, this needs to be here.

                  Ultimately I just think its laziness of the company to either not have a toggle for it. Or have a corporate build for corporate customers

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                  • the16bitgamer@programming.devT [email protected]

                    I am an it at a company. Forcing updates is a necessity for some of our users. We have 5 year old phones which have never been updated, and needs to be for their software to work right.

                    That said what works in consumer space and what works in corporate is two different things. As a consumer I’d hate this and have moved away from preinstalled android years ago. But as IT, this needs to be here.

                    Ultimately I just think its laziness of the company to either not have a toggle for it. Or have a corporate build for corporate customers

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                    You’re an information technology?

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                      Not Macbooks though surprisingly.

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                      #188

                      You mean UNsurprisingly?

                      Edit: I cannot read.

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                      • G [email protected]

                        I will need to buy a new TV soon, and the single biggest factor won't be price, features, or quality, it will be the absolute minimum smart features available. I'm fine with a sleep timer, and built-in audio smoothing would be great, but I can add anything else I want with a dongle that costs less than $100 (or just attach a full-blown computer to it). I'm not made of money, but I'm fortunate enough that I can afford to buy a TV with something other than an opportunity to invade my private life for marketing.

                        The other thing I'm looking for is a decent non-Google/Apple smartphone with an eye to privacy. A decent Linux phone would be great, Sailfish OS looks promising, maybe there are other options. Hopefully my Samsung lasts until then. When one of their updates came out whose main feature seemed to be the ability to spy on you everywhere, I closed my account and don't even have that logged in anymore. There are a number of interesting features I can't use, and a lot of terrible features I don't want, that aren't available to me anymore. A smartphone that belongs to me, and not some corporate conglomerate would be nice. We'll see.

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                        We bought a smart TV a couple years ago, and it was so hard to find a model without a built-in microphone... No I don't want my fucking TV to listen to every word said in the room.

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                        • R [email protected]

                          I have a pixel 4a (yes, ik its eol, i use it more as a backup) that used to be rooted, until i got that shitty battery update, immediately switched to graphene.
                          So yes you do still get updates on rooted

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                          I think it depends on the device. I remember rooting my s7, or maybe it was the grand prime? I cant remember the exact model, but it was samsung and around that time period for those two models, and any software update i wanted to apply, including security updates, had to be manually installed/side loaded.

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                            Which one

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                            I use Macrodroid for similar notification handling shenanigans. I even bought it bc it's so beautifully customisable 👌

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                              I have a pixel 4a (yes, ik its eol, i use it more as a backup) that used to be rooted, until i got that shitty battery update, immediately switched to graphene.
                              So yes you do still get updates on rooted

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                              Weird. Also a Pixel4a user (condolences to both of us), but I had LineageOS on mine and was rooted, but I've had no software updates. I get reminders from LineageOS that a new build is available, but I just swipe right because if it ain't broke don't fix

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                              • P [email protected]

                                Am I the only here that smells bullshit/ragebait? When your phone has the bootloader unlocked and you're rooted, you simply cannot receive official software updates. That only works in custom roms.

                                EDIT: It seems that for several people this is not the case. Guess I'm wrong then, but personally I've never received software update requests after rooting. Right now in my xperia 5v I literally can't even check to see if there is one. The only way to know is to look up my model in xperifirm.

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                                sometimes it tries to automatically update, fail and mess up the OS (happened to me with earlier versions of Moto G)

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                                • wizard_pope@lemmy.worldW [email protected]

                                  You mean UNsurprisingly?

                                  Edit: I cannot read.

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                                  No, it's surprising that Macs are not locked. Because the Mac OS ecosystem is usually locked tighter than a vir-, er, very tightly.

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                                    Win11 When i hit "restart" after work to boot into Linux: "You mean log off ... You wanted the log in screen right?"

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                                    What version of windows 11? I've been using Win 11 IoT Enterprise LTSC and haven't had too many issues.

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                                      What version of windows 11? I've been using Win 11 IoT Enterprise LTSC and haven't had too many issues.

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                                      Pro. But i also use an offline account so half of everything else is broken. Whatever. Get a new job and I'll scrub the OS from my PC. then the new employer can give me their hardware and account and IT garbage or whatever.

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                                      • C [email protected]

                                        GOS by all its strenghts, is following the paths treat by Google and Apple on defining what a smartphone has to be and how its security model has to look like, where only the OS distributor has full privileges, and you are just allowed to use it.

                                        If you have the same requirements for your system as the people who designed these phones assumes you have, then GOS is great for you.

                                        But if you want to tinker and customize, like we can with Linux systems, then Android and especially locked down systems like GOS aren't for you.

                                        I am using GOS myself, because it is good, but I also have a separate device of tinkering.

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                                        What do you have for a tinkering device, if I may ask?

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                                          https://infosec.exchange/@ryanc/114901140203859448

                                          i recomend this ancient talk: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HUEvRyemKSg

                                          https://redirect.invidious.io/watch?v=HUEvRyemKSg

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                                          Stories like this is very much why I severely limit the amount of time I spend on Windows. Having been with Windows nearly since the beginning of its history, it's insane to see the amount of reduction of user control that's gone into it.

                                          One of the most egregious things is the lack of control around updates. Often I'll finish a session with my laptop and go to store it in the bag. Windows will cheerfully inform me that there is a forced update and then I end up having to wait for my machine to finish its shit while I sit around tapping my toes.

                                          Meanwhile, in Linux-land, I have as much control over updates as I wish. I almost breathe a sigh of relief when I reach my Linux desktop, because it's still a place that feels like MINE. I feel like I'm some kind of sharecropper or temporary house guest when on Windows 11. It doesn't feel like "my" environment. It feels like it's Microsoft's computer and they just let me use it occasionally.

                                          For myself, I was lucky(?) enough to have wasted my best years playing with Linux and running Linux boxes is no problem now. For the average Joe that needs to mess with computers, I feel bad for them. Windows 11 feels like shit, MacOS sure isn't great either, and that's pretty much the only choice.

                                          No wonder I'm seeing less and less households with PCs and laptops. I think the average person in 2025 has just given up on computers and makes do with their phone or tablet.

                                          Thank fucking god for Linux, because if I was forced to use Windows 11 full time, I think I'd snap and go live in the middle of the forest or something. It's actively annoying to even look at at this point, and I only see things getting worse. For example, the troubles with Windows "Recall" have barely even started.

                                          I loathe to see what Microsoft has in store for us next, and I would guarantee it's not user friendly.

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