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Do you judge people for buying stuff that you're boycotting?

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    I seen too many internet forums saying that if you don't boycott X, Y, and Z, then you're a "terrible person". What do you think about that?

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    It's the internet. People get worked up over pizza toppings. Boycotting won't solve this crisis, it's a personal preference thing as far as I'm concerned. I do it like I try to keep waste to a minimum. I don't want to be a part of the problem where possible but I don't expect to cause a detectable impact. If I and others do - even better.

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      I didn't used to, but I'm getting more judgemental as time goes on. I'm an ally and involved in LGBTQIA orgs and I can't tell you how many gay friends and acquaintances I have that still go to Chick-fil-A and Walmart. I'm harsher with those two, but now, I'll speak out against folks going to Target as well. Even without Target, Walmart and Amazon, I still have no trouble buying anything I need without inconvenience.
      The only language large corporations speak is money and if you can't even boycott a company that makes mid fast food that's spending money to take away your rights, it seems pathetic to me.

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      I hate to break it to you but in many parts of the rural US, Walmart is the only option to buy things. They have monopolized and killed small grocers, mechanics, and pharmacies. Walmart is the only place within a reasonable distance that I can get my (lifesaving) medication for a cost that I can afford. I hate doing it but there is literally no other option for me.

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        If you think that giving a murderer money so he can buy a gun to murder people with is not related to the act of murdering people, i would love to hear the explanation.

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        First of all, you're demanding me answer something that is completely separate from the original argument. OP asked about judging other people for their purchases. You are asking about an action that presents direct violent harm, something completely different. Purchasing something from a company may support violence in some way, but purchasing an item may support the company's practices, but it does not necessarily mean that every purchase directly funds those harmful actions. Your comparison is quite literally the "Appeal to Emotion" fallacy, it is not a good-faith argument, you are trying to present an emotional picture that isn't relevant, and I won't buy into it.

        All the time on the internet this happens. Someone here put it very well. Someone can ask "What is 2+2" and a commenter will reply "4". Someone else then will inevitably reply "Well what about 2+3?! You didn't even consider it!"

        The question was asked and answered, you're asking something completely separate.

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          Agree. Except buying a new Tesla now. As a former Tesla owner, if you buy a new one now, fuck you. There is no excuse for ignorance here.

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          Agree there, Tesla is pretty dang obvious, and it's a huge purchase. It's not buying a non-organic tomato or a chicken sandwich, it's very clear where the money goes, and you had to make a very clear conscious decision about it that you will be living with for years to come.

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            It kind of depends on the reason for the boycott and how widely it's understood. Like I for sure judge anyone who buys a cybertuck today.

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            Or a MAGA hat. Or a Trump card.

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              I hate to break it to you but in many parts of the rural US, Walmart is the only option to buy things. They have monopolized and killed small grocers, mechanics, and pharmacies. Walmart is the only place within a reasonable distance that I can get my (lifesaving) medication for a cost that I can afford. I hate doing it but there is literally no other option for me.

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              You're right, unfortunately. That's a reality in some rural areas. My experience does come from a city with options, and I'm judging those folks.
              One positive is that so many things can be delivered now, which helps to supplement the absence of local businesses put under by Walmart, and can even create more local businesses. While you may not have the option with certain medications, spending 30% less there will make a difference.

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              • D [email protected]

                I seen too many internet forums saying that if you don't boycott X, Y, and Z, then you're a "terrible person". What do you think about that?

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                No. I might explain them why they should boycott it from now on. But I do it only if their political views align with valid reasons to boycott

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                  Lol I'm about to type the exact same thought and saw you put it even better than I would.

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                  • D [email protected]

                    I seen too many internet forums saying that if you don't boycott X, Y, and Z, then you're a "terrible person". What do you think about that?

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                    Depends. Not every boycott is equally easy to pull off. Apparently the CEO of Nestle doesn’t believe in the basic human right of clean water. Makes me want to boycott them but… where do you even start. That’s about 1/3 of our supermarkets stocks. Also Amazon has the market cornered in a lot of ways / places. I’ve been able to not order but I know people who have 0 viable alternatives for things they need.

                    Then again if it’s something like people picking Starbucks over the local coffee shop next to it while preaching moral superiority… yeah, then I’ll judge.

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                    • D [email protected]

                      I seen too many internet forums saying that if you don't boycott X, Y, and Z, then you're a "terrible person". What do you think about that?

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                      Nah, there's already enough to try and keep up with no need to add to the pile. If its friends I might just comment why I dont. I wouldn't expect them to change though if they didnt care.

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                      • D [email protected]

                        I seen too many internet forums saying that if you don't boycott X, Y, and Z, then you're a "terrible person". What do you think about that?

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                        I particularly judge people who don’t boycott anything at all. The people who say “I’m here for a good time, not a long time”. But I don’t judge them absolutely. I was late to the game myself so I don’t blame them. But I still think it’s their and our responsibility to do so. TLDR: no to blame, but yes to judgement.

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                        • D [email protected]

                          I seen too many internet forums saying that if you don't boycott X, Y, and Z, then you're a "terrible person". What do you think about that?

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                          I ignore boycotts because they tend to affect the common employees of the targeted company more than the CEOs they're aimed at. Congrats, you clicked on Brand X instead of Brand Y. Your uncle got laid off when the quarterly numbers went down, but a billionaire has $3 less now, and more importantly you feel like a hero. Way to go, Joan of Arc!

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                            I seen too many internet forums saying that if you don't boycott X, Y, and Z, then you're a "terrible person". What do you think about that?

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                            Nobody's perfect, sometimes they need to buy some to make a special day for someone they love and even in the strictist ideals you can forgive that, as much as you may not agree. Also my boycotts are my ideals not others so no reason to think less of someone else cause they're doing their thing with their knowledge on it all. Mean there may be limits but think that gives the impression of my thoughts.

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                              I think people should boycott entities that they feel deserve it, but only to the extent that their financial situation warrants it. For example, I try to not buy from Amazon. I think everyone should do this, but I have the luxury of being able to afford paying more for the same thing bought elsewhere. Some people don't, and that's OK.

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                              I live on an island in Alaska, so my Amazon alternatives are usually Walmart, maybe Target... not a lot of others. If I can buy direct from the company I will, but a lot of times Amazon is the only real option (and no option to buy local).

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                              • D [email protected]

                                I seen too many internet forums saying that if you don't boycott X, Y, and Z, then you're a "terrible person". What do you think about that?

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                                Here in Canada, the products we're boycotting have been marked down because people wouldn't buy them otherwise. Someone that has less money than I have might need to buy the cheaper products so I'm not going to judge them for that.

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                                  I ignore boycotts because they tend to affect the common employees of the targeted company more than the CEOs they're aimed at. Congrats, you clicked on Brand X instead of Brand Y. Your uncle got laid off when the quarterly numbers went down, but a billionaire has $3 less now, and more importantly you feel like a hero. Way to go, Joan of Arc!

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                                  The $3 is going to another company so someone will be less likely to be laid off at that company. And if you're boycotting companies that treat employees unfairly, it will mean companies that treat their employees more fairly will be selling more and would be hiring more people. End result is more people working at fair companies and fewer people working at shitty companies. This is a net benefit.

                                  And it's not just $3 it's $3 multiplied by all of the people participating in the boycott.

                                  And yes boycotts actually do work. I'm in Canada and boycotts are kinda our thing here, and we're already seeing a change in products being stocked on shelves now because the products from a certain country are selling so poorly. If boycotts don't work where you live it's because others have bought into the same bullshit that you have. They work if enough people do it, and if you're not doing it, you're part of the reason why it doesn't work.

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                                    My main hobby is not collecting stamps. lol, I'm going to use that somewhere.

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                                    I'm more into not collecting coins myself.

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                                      Some people may not be informed about what is happening

                                      They probably dont care about what a rich person does in a country on another continent

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                                      "Davon haben wir nichts gewusst" was a shit excuse back then and an even worse excuse now, in the internet connected world.

                                      https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knowledge_of_the_Holocaust_in_Nazi_Germany_and_German-occupied_Europe

                                      ::: spoiler Tap for spoiler
                                      Davon haben wir nichts gewusst" ("We knew nothing about that")
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                                      • spacecowboy@lemmy.caS [email protected]

                                        I'm more into not collecting coins myself.

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                                        That's a solid a hobby. I used to not collect football and baseball cards but in my rapidly approaching old person days, I'm really into not collecting antiques.

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                                        • D [email protected]

                                          I seen too many internet forums saying that if you don't boycott X, Y, and Z, then you're a "terrible person". What do you think about that?

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                                          If they’re aware of the issue with it and do it anyways, yes. Absolutely.

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