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But I like the secret handshakes of the Illuminati

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  • quill7513@slrpnk.netQ [email protected]

    i have an ur-conspiracy theory that every elaborate conspiracy theory is a distraction from a simple and straightforward conspiracy. for every "trump is trying to uncover a vast child sex ring" there's a "trump fucks kids and our system of capital protects him"

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    That kind of sums up the difference Naomi Klein makes in Doppelganger about conspiracy theory and leftist critics: Leftists will look at the system while conspiracy theorists will assume the system is good but some people, most often Jews, have somehow corrupted it.

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      Exactly. There is a theory that those actually in charge are bored of Trump, hence why he’s suddenly getting thrown under the bus. They aren’t necessarily richer, just collectively have more money/power.

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      Yeah but who knows that’s all entirely speculation at this point.

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        I'm from Buenos Aires and I say kill 'em all!

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          That kind of sums up the difference Naomi Klein makes in Doppelganger about conspiracy theory and leftist critics: Leftists will look at the system while conspiracy theorists will assume the system is good but some people, most often Jews, have somehow corrupted it.

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          Im sure you know Cory Doctrorow already but i still wanted to share this little section from one of his recent blogposts.

          https://pluralistic.net/2025/07/19/systemic/

          Trump's conspiratorial base are hugely and reliably animated by stories about impunity for elite sex predators. As well they should be! Elite sex predators get away with all kinds of crimes – not just Epstein, but the whole universe of powerful men, from Harvey Weinstein to Donald Trump, who systematically abused women for decades and got away with it – bragged about it, even!

          But despite these very real abusers, the conspiracists in the Trump base are mostly concerned with imaginary abusers – Qanon's shadowy cabal of adrenochrome-guzzling pedophiles, tirelessly freighting trafficked children from one nonexistent pizza parlor basement to the next, packed inside of very mid Wayfair home furnishings:

          https://pluralistic.net/2021/07/05/ideomotor-response/#qonspiracy

          This is the "mirror world" of right wing conspiracism described in Naomi Klein's Doppelganger:

          https://pluralistic.net/2023/09/05/not-that-naomi/#if-the-naomi-be-klein-youre-doing-just-fine

          It's the world in which real suffering children (kids in cages, children rotting in Alligator Auschwitz, kids working the night-shift at a meat-packing plant) don't matter at all, while imaginary children (unborn children, Qanon victims, etc) take center stage.

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            Secret group of rich people

            Let me guess. Those rich people are Jewish?

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            What is it with people associating Judaism with secret power? Just because they win a disproportionate amount of Nobel prizes?

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              Secret group of rich people

              Let me guess. Those rich people are Jewish?

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              No, they're secret. No way to know. Unless you got insider information.
              i lick it boom boom dem

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                  Exactly. There is a theory that those actually in charge are bored of Trump, hence why he’s suddenly getting thrown under the bus. They aren’t necessarily richer, just collectively have more money/power.

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                  He's doing great on his crypto scams though. Maybe he's just distracted by the thought of being rich.

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                    Both. The smart works work behind the scenes like that anti christ looking mfer Peter thiel.

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                      Secret Group of Rich People = Poor People, Migrants, and Minorities

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                        I'm from Buenos Aires and I say kill 'em all!

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                        The only good billionaire is a dead billionaire

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                          Both. The smart works work behind the scenes like that anti christ looking mfer Peter thiel.

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                          He looks like a fucking tweaker

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                            It’s almost certainly both. It’s the ones we know about (all the stupid ones) and the ones we don’t know about (smarter.)

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                            What if the movers and shakers get together at a publicly disclosed, but extremely private meeting with no outside access?

                            No meeting notes, and the participants are basically sworn to secrecy. But once a year the most obscenely wealthy individuals on the planet get together to discuss their own vision for the future. And the location is public knowledge, simply because the insane level of security ensures that nobody who wasn't invited will ever get in.

                            And whatever they decide, these fuckers absolutely have the power to make it happen. Bet they just fucking laugh their asses off at the various Illuminati conspiracies out there.

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                              Gates made his money off monopolizing technology. You can find memos where he specifically leveraged his contacts with manufacturers to ignore specifications (which Microsoft helped specify) so FOSS like Linux wouldn't work properly.

                              I truly believe in a world without Microsoft that todays software would be much safer, private and advanced by quite a few years.

                              Gates only became a philanthropist after he married, there's probably a very good reason she left, even excluding the Epstein connections.

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                              And he's largely responsible for the "licensing" model for commercial software, ensuring we'll never actually own software we pay for. So not surprising at all he used 'scorched earth' tactics to impede the Foss movement.

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                                I mean there's definitely groups of powerful rich people that aren't widely known. That's just cuz they're smart enough to stay out of the Limelight. It's not a secret society though.

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                                  Both. The smart works work behind the scenes like that anti christ looking mfer Peter thiel.

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                                  I don't really know how widely known Peter Thiel is. Like the circles I run in know him. He's known here. But does the average person on the street know who is? Not even that does the average news watcher/reader know who he is?

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                                    "You don't need to invent an invisible shadow government to be mad at. You can just be mad at the actual government."

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                                      I mean there's definitely groups of powerful rich people that aren't widely known. That's just cuz they're smart enough to stay out of the Limelight. It's not a secret society though.

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                                      If the rich people control everything then it would be normal to put the spotlight on each one of them once in a while just for society to know who holds the power. Instead newspapers gossip about movie stars and a small group of rich people. That's more than smartness.

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                                        If the rich people control everything then it would be normal to put the spotlight on each one of them once in a while just for society to know who holds the power. Instead newspapers gossip about movie stars and a small group of rich people. That's more than smartness.

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                                        Well yeah man who do you think owns the spotlights?

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                                          Why not both?

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