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    That was someone else. I'm not the original commenter on this comment chain.

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    When they asked them what they thought was gross you answered, so I would assume you share that opinion. Do you not?

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      had a strange discussion a couple years ago with someone who insisted their fursona / fur suit outfit should be protected like LGBTQ rights have been enshrined. I took exception to that and still do because I do not want to see this as a lever to justify excluding / persecuting LGBTQ folk who have fought for a century for their rights. The way they put it was that 'stonewall' was for furry rights as much as LGBTQ rights and my mind said: yeah but they did the fighting, they've been in the struggle, you just showed up with a fox suit with crotch zippers.... my dawg...

      I'm not advocating for their persecution, nor do I believe 'we have enough diversity and should close the door'.... but I still don't see it as an equivalent.

      edit: and so instead of explaining, someone just downvotes. this isn't going to help your premise.

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        Its one of those niche communities that makes me smile - a lot of creativity there. They're my kind of critters (absolute geeks and nerds).

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          I’m cool with roleplaying as an animal person, wearing a costume, the fetish aspect, whatever. Live your life.

          I just don’t understand why they’ve all standardized to using the same terrible art style. It doesn’t look like a human, an animal, or even a sonic character (which I assume is the root), but a fourth thing. You can tell a furry by how they draw a normal human because of how deep set the habits are. Is there any other group as exclusively committed to an art style?

          If I spent that kind of money on a wolf costume I’d at least want it to vaguely look like a wolf.

          Edit: If you think these don’t heavily share a style (as compared to anthropomorphic characters from non-furry animated series, for example) then I don’t know what to tell you.

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          That just isn't true. There are as many art styles in furry as there are outside of it. If you're talking about popular artists that's something different. But if you take one look around an artists alley you'll see more that's different than the same.

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            My beef with furries is entirely my own derangement and has everything to do with beserkers. No I don't want to turn into an anthropomorphic bear, I want to embody a bear driven mad which is to say go apeshit hit someone with a yard implement and sacrifice them to an ancient god. If you call me a bear because of my weight and general looks I am going to hit you with a shovel and steal one of your kidneys.

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            • tatterdemalion@programming.devT [email protected]

              To be clear: I harbor no resentment against furries. They have a right to do their thing, I just don't want to be involved.

              If furry porn didn't exist, then I might have less of a prejudice against furries and furry content. But as it stands, I will actively avoid anything with the furry aesthetic, because the porn is too weird for me to stomach. You will never be able to remove that association; the damage is done. When I see video games that I might otherwise like, but the art is furry art, I think, "ah, that's a shame. Won't be playing that."

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              I still have an old comment on my computer from Kongregate where I disliked a game just for having a wolf character.

              I now hang out with furries more than other types of people.

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                Its one of those niche communities that makes me smile - a lot of creativity there. They're my kind of critters (absolute geeks and nerds).

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                Did meet disgusting furries too that painted my view in a not-so bright light. Oh well, I'm now just more cautious all-around.

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                  thats a plus for some

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                  Uh, read their username

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                    I’m cool with roleplaying as an animal person, wearing a costume, the fetish aspect, whatever. Live your life.

                    I just don’t understand why they’ve all standardized to using the same terrible art style. It doesn’t look like a human, an animal, or even a sonic character (which I assume is the root), but a fourth thing. You can tell a furry by how they draw a normal human because of how deep set the habits are. Is there any other group as exclusively committed to an art style?

                    If I spent that kind of money on a wolf costume I’d at least want it to vaguely look like a wolf.

                    Edit: If you think these don’t heavily share a style (as compared to anthropomorphic characters from non-furry animated series, for example) then I don’t know what to tell you.

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                    Same terrible art style? If you are referring to actual stylings of how furry artists put lines and colours on canvas, then what you've done is seen a similar art style from two artists and then assumed the same for the rest.

                    If you're talking about actual character proportions, oh boy! First of all, Sonic does not even come close to being a majority inspiration for furries; a way closer guess would be the Argonians and Khajiiti from Skyrim. Secondly, the whole point of furries is their fascination with this world of anthropomorphic animals; "anthropomorphic" means "human-like", so of course the majority of furry characters would be animal races with human-like body proportions.

                    EDIT: bro's really included a Google image search of "furry pfp" to try to prove his point without realizing that drawn profile pictures naturally have certain exaggerated features and clearly-defined lines to appear well when shrunk down to the size profile pictures are normally displayed. Easy counterpoint: now do a Google image search of "furry art".

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                    • jackbydev@programming.devJ [email protected]

                      When they asked them what they thought was gross you answered, so I would assume you share that opinion. Do you not?

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                      I answered with mostly the related art. That's the gross part, for me.

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                        Did meet disgusting furries too that painted my view in a not-so bright light. Oh well, I'm now just more cautious all-around.

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                        There are horrible people in every group. Unfortunately, it tends to be the worst offenders that stand out and define the rest.

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                          I don't care for furries, but I actually dislike the common art style that Western furries use. They always have this aesthetic that make them look like knock-off DreamWorks characters. Not sure if they count as furries but I find animal-based characters in anime much cuter. Also, I'm not a huge fan of their R-18 stuff popping up on my feed.

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                          • mojofrododojo@lemmy.worldM [email protected]

                            had a strange discussion a couple years ago with someone who insisted their fursona / fur suit outfit should be protected like LGBTQ rights have been enshrined. I took exception to that and still do because I do not want to see this as a lever to justify excluding / persecuting LGBTQ folk who have fought for a century for their rights. The way they put it was that 'stonewall' was for furry rights as much as LGBTQ rights and my mind said: yeah but they did the fighting, they've been in the struggle, you just showed up with a fox suit with crotch zippers.... my dawg...

                            I'm not advocating for their persecution, nor do I believe 'we have enough diversity and should close the door'.... but I still don't see it as an equivalent.

                            edit: and so instead of explaining, someone just downvotes. this isn't going to help your premise.

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                            So I agree with your result but not with the path you took to get there. If we find out tomorrow that there's some other part of gender or sexuality and people start identifying as that because now their life makes sense with this new label then they should be allowed in even though they didn't fight or struggle.

                            But furries aren't a sexuality or gender, they're a hobby. It's just a fun suit and roleplay. That can be enough to base a life around, but it's a learned hobby like video games or d&d. Not something they're born with that would cause persecution along with gay and trans rights

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                              Its one of those niche communities that makes me smile - a lot of creativity there. They're my kind of critters (absolute geeks and nerds).

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                              Same I’ve been to so many furcons and it’s a fandom full of geeks and nerds. The creativity of the community is awesome and it’s something you don’t see in any other fandoms. Them fursuits do be crazy expensive too and it’s really just a form of cosplay which is what people don’t understand.

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                                I answered with mostly the related art. That's the gross part, for me.

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                                Every fandom has that NSFW side and it’s not specific to furries. There’s plenty of SFW furry art like the animation memes you see on youtube and websites like artfight. If you don’t want to see the NSFW stuff then just avoid going on those sites or communities; it’s really not that hard.

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                                  Every fandom has that NSFW side and it’s not specific to furries. There’s plenty of SFW furry art like the animation memes you see on youtube and websites like artfight. If you don’t want to see the NSFW stuff then just avoid going on those sites or communities; it’s really not that hard.

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                                  Yeah, that's why I blocked them. I don't visit them and insult them. There was a discussion of what about this one was gross, which I didn't start. I answered. There's lots of gross stuff across communities and I block those, too. I don't begrudge people their interests or kinks. I do find some of them gross. I think that's fine, as I'm usually not engaged with those communities.

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                                  • tatterdemalion@programming.devT [email protected]

                                    To be clear: I harbor no resentment against furries. They have a right to do their thing, I just don't want to be involved.

                                    If furry porn didn't exist, then I might have less of a prejudice against furries and furry content. But as it stands, I will actively avoid anything with the furry aesthetic, because the porn is too weird for me to stomach. You will never be able to remove that association; the damage is done. When I see video games that I might otherwise like, but the art is furry art, I think, "ah, that's a shame. Won't be playing that."

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                                    ...every furry i've known has been a cool person: i'm not saying it's universal but the fandom tends to attract geeky fun-loving personalities and those are my favorite kind of people to play with...

                                    ...as for furry sexuality (which of course isn't strictly synonymous with the fandom): well, it may not be my jam but neither are men, so i don't feel any differently about it than i do corset-rippers or gay erotica; as long folks keep their kinks tastefully discreet, go with the gods...

                                    ^(really^ ^the^ ^only^ ^kink^ ^which^ ^gets^ ^under^ ^my^ ^skin^ ^is^ ^objectification^ ^/^ ^degredation^ ^/^ ^humiliation^ ^/^ ^exploitation,^ ^and^ ^that's^ ^sexuality-agnostic)^

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                                      Y’all smell under that suit.

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                                      I, unfortunately, do not have a suit 😭

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                                        Mostly the related art. The amount of yiff communities I had to block to keep their porn out of my feed was surprising. I don't begrudge them their lifestyle. You want to put on something and have sex with somebody, go for it. I'm not into even 1%. The amount of erotic art that exists is beyond astounding to me. Meanwhile, I struggle to find active communities about Halloween, Lego, and various games I play. Granted, I haven't looked lately for new ones, but the ones I subscribed to previously aren't very active.

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                                        That might be an instance issue, honestly. I have never seen porn of any kind cross my feed unless I specifically go looking for it. Your instance might just be federated with a bunch of furry porn communities.

                                        My feed is basically exclusively 196, politics, Linux, Star Trek, and related meme subs to those - and I just set my feed to top 24 hours or sort by active on the all feed. But I also think a lot of communities outside of those are rather underrepresented on Lemmy.

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                                          So I agree with your result but not with the path you took to get there. If we find out tomorrow that there's some other part of gender or sexuality and people start identifying as that because now their life makes sense with this new label then they should be allowed in even though they didn't fight or struggle.

                                          But furries aren't a sexuality or gender, they're a hobby. It's just a fun suit and roleplay. That can be enough to base a life around, but it's a learned hobby like video games or d&d. Not something they're born with that would cause persecution along with gay and trans rights

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                                          Not something they’re born with that would cause persecution along with gay and trans rights

                                          yep.

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