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  • F [email protected]

    Alright cool, probably takes a long time to do while also having a job and a family, but I'm just saying there were times in college where I wrote out 5k words in a day, formatted and typeset within a week.

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    Are we supposed to clap you now?

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    • F [email protected]

      Alright cool, probably takes a long time to do while also having a job and a family, but I'm just saying there were times in college where I wrote out 5k words in a day, formatted and typeset within a week.

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      I once wrote 5k words uphill both ways in the snow.

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        I once wrote 5k words uphill both ways in the snow.

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        Literally, though, yeah I did.

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          Are we supposed to clap you now?

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          Honey, you need to buy me some drinks first.

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            Is your CPU open source? I bet you have a Intel ME or AMD PSP on your computer.

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            well I'm happy I know those exist now but its a little scary what with everything else going on in the world.

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              Is your CPU open source? I bet you have a Intel ME or AMD PSP on your computer.

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              Yes, but how are they going to wipe my offline backups?

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              • F [email protected]

                Alright cool, probably takes a long time to do while also having a job and a family, but I'm just saying there were times in college where I wrote out 5k words in a day, formatted and typeset within a week.

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                alright, cool. so what?

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                  Yes, but how are they going to wipe my offline backups?

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                  Under normal circumstances, they can't. But if they actually want to target you and they want to spend the time and resources, they could potentially send instructions to the backdoor to secretly sabotage the backup process:

                  Basically showing you that the backup is working, while in the background, it has been encrypting the files to a key they control during that backup process, and essentialy act as ransomware. (Modern computing has made hardware encryption so fast that it would be seamless, so it would be hard to notice that happening.)

                  So every time you check the backup's integrity, it uses the key to unlock the files and show you "everything is fine".

                  But when the time comes, they would nuke the keys from the Intel ME / AMD PSP then next time you try to access your files, you get an error message, then you try to plug in the backup drive, also shows errors. Because they already nuked the keys, you have a bunch of encrypted data you can't access.

                  Sounds far fetched, but theoretically its possible.

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                    Is your CPU open source? I bet you have a Intel ME or AMD PSP on your computer.

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                    Alternately, if you don't live in China, Zhaoxin makes x86-64-compatible CPUs. No need to worry about the Chinese government/corpos helping the American government/corpos tyrannize it's own citizens.

                    They're not quite as good as intel/AMD in perf or effeciency/dollar.

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                    • gloomy@mander.xyzG [email protected]

                      Schreibblockadenüberwindungsworte

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                      Ich gehe in die Selbstbedienungsladen

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                        FYI Waze is owned by Google.

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                        Yes, I'm well aware. I just like the user contributions part of Waze it's like google maps but aimed for driving

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                          Scrivener is an offline, desktop app. So the files will be on their hard drive.

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                          Yup, Scrivener saves data locally. Ironically, you should never use it on a cloud drive, because apparently it can lead to data corruption. I sync my Scrivener projects across multiple computers with Git instead, because that at least ensures the files are at a consistent state.

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                          • F [email protected]

                            This is extra bad because they want you to use cloud files in gdrive (I can't remember what the feature is actually called), which doesn't save the content locally on your computer, but puts an icon that will download the content from Google servers when you click on it. This means you have no local backup of your data in your computer backups.

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                            And even then, if you make sure to copy the actual file, you'd still depend on them to open it if it's in their proprietary format.

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                            • K [email protected]

                              Ah yes, the very first lesson I'd teach in my multimedia 'authoring' class: Back your shit up, here's 11 ways to do that; if you EVER tell me you lost your work as an excuse I'm going to LAUGH IN YOUR FACE as I assign you a ZERO.

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                              a bit harsh, but often the most important lessons in life are those that hurt the most.

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                                Ah yes, the very first lesson I'd teach in my multimedia 'authoring' class: Back your shit up, here's 11 ways to do that; if you EVER tell me you lost your work as an excuse I'm going to LAUGH IN YOUR FACE as I assign you a ZERO.

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                                I never really liked Google, but their whole thing was supposed to be that you never needed to worry about backups.

                                But as Google so often does, they've decided to screw people over who relied on their drive and office suite.

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                                  https://fosstodon.org/@pheonix/114931121766433702

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                                  Cloud can be a backup, it absolutely should never be your only copy.

                                  But keep in mind they will probably use that data for anything they want, like training AI models. So make sure you are ok with them doing that on any data you put there. This is mostly why I fill my cloud space with incoherent nonsense.

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                                    Yes, but how are they going to wipe my offline backups?

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                                    if a government or corporation or whoever is seeking to delete your personal files specifically, i think you have much bigger problems to worry about

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                                    • D [email protected]

                                      Under normal circumstances, they can't. But if they actually want to target you and they want to spend the time and resources, they could potentially send instructions to the backdoor to secretly sabotage the backup process:

                                      Basically showing you that the backup is working, while in the background, it has been encrypting the files to a key they control during that backup process, and essentialy act as ransomware. (Modern computing has made hardware encryption so fast that it would be seamless, so it would be hard to notice that happening.)

                                      So every time you check the backup's integrity, it uses the key to unlock the files and show you "everything is fine".

                                      But when the time comes, they would nuke the keys from the Intel ME / AMD PSP then next time you try to access your files, you get an error message, then you try to plug in the backup drive, also shows errors. Because they already nuked the keys, you have a bunch of encrypted data you can't access.

                                      Sounds far fetched, but theoretically its possible.

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                                      They would just as well nuke me litetally if we are that far down

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                                      • spicehoarder@lemmy.zipS [email protected]

                                        I never really liked Google, but their whole thing was supposed to be that you never needed to worry about backups.

                                        But as Google so often does, they've decided to screw people over who relied on their drive and office suite.

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                                        I never really liked Google, but their whole thing was supposed to be that you never needed to worry about backups.

                                        no it wasn't. no sane person ever told you that. everyone always knew situation like the one described here will come sooner or later.

                                        google might have told you so, but it is of similar value to when tobacco company tells you that smoking is healthy and to please continue smoking (and giving us money).

                                        they’ve decided to screw people over who relied on their drive and office suite.

                                        these people are not the customers. i will repeat that, because this part is really important - THESE PEOPLE ARE NOT THE CUSTOMERS.

                                        when you don't pay for the service, you are not the customer, you are the merchandise that is being sold. and you are treated like one. when you are selling screwdrivers and one of them fall of the shelf, you don't bother yourself thinking if it hurt.

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                                          I don't think they can nuke files from my linux computer.

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                                          yeah, the funny and sad thing here is, that there are people in the world for whom "locally" means "in my phone". 🤷‍♂️

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