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UK households could face VPN 'ban' after use skyrockets following Online Safety Bill

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    Prominent backbench MP Sarah Champion launched a campaign against VPNs previously, saying: “My new clause 54 would require the Secretary of State to publish, within six months of the Bill’s passage, a report on the effect of VPN use on Ofcom’s ability to enforce the requirements under clause 112.

    "If VPNs cause significant issues, the Government must identify those issues and find solutions, rather than avoiding difficult problems.” And the Labour Party said there were “gaps” in the bill that needed to be amended.

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    If this comes to anything I'm moving to somewhere in the EU and pursuing citizenship there. This is clearly not about protecting the children anymore (not that it ever was).

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      I’m uninformed. What’s the reason for the porn ID thing? Is it just porn or more?

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      It's probably true that a few anti-porn people exist somewhere in the world. It's certainly true that fascists love adding in new tools to keep the general population from using the internet freely.

      So the answer to your question is yes, and yes.

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      • H [email protected]

        That sounds a bit like fear mongering from Reform: a VPN is safety 101 when using public networks, and most businesses make use of VPNs to secure their data. They are also a key component if WFH (you use the company VPN).

        If Labour are stupid enough to go after VPN usage, I suspect it would guarantee their loss at the next election.

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        Eh, I dunno. The vast majority have no idea what a VPN is. If a VPN ban benefits Rupert fucking Murdoch then the tabloids will wang on about how they're used by paedophiles and people smugglers and that'll be that.

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        • J [email protected]

          That's good. Everyone can read base 1.

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          I dunno, some people get confused beyond 11111.

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          • flamekebab@piefed.socialF [email protected]

            Best of luck with that, idiots. How are you planning to tell the difference between my personal VPN and my work VPN?

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            They wouldn't consider such rational things

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            • thenose@lemmy.worldT [email protected]

              Show me a ban that didn’t came with 10x problems. People have their needs even the filthy ones. Especially the filthy ones. Hence will find a way to fulfill it. If there’s no legal way to do so the demand will create an alternative market for it to match the demand…more trouble on the way if that’s the lane the UK choose

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              let people live life is more than just good for individuals… it’s just safer for everyone

              focusing on harm reduction rather than abstinence and bans

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              • flamekebab@piefed.socialF [email protected]

                Best of luck with that, idiots. How are you planning to tell the difference between my personal VPN and my work VPN?

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                Next step: ban on remote work.

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                • T [email protected]

                  Prominent backbench MP Sarah Champion launched a campaign against VPNs previously, saying: “My new clause 54 would require the Secretary of State to publish, within six months of the Bill’s passage, a report on the effect of VPN use on Ofcom’s ability to enforce the requirements under clause 112.

                  "If VPNs cause significant issues, the Government must identify those issues and find solutions, rather than avoiding difficult problems.” And the Labour Party said there were “gaps” in the bill that needed to be amended.

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                  The UK government doth protest too much about protecting the kids. It’s obvious that this whole thing is just an attempt to increase the surveillance of the UK population.

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                  • luouth@lemmy.worldL [email protected]

                    Bye bye UK economy. How do you expect businesses to work without VPNs?

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                    Ban remote working, vpn now only allowed from business addresses as registered with companies house.

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                      go back?

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                      • flamekebab@piefed.socialF [email protected]

                        Best of luck with that, idiots. How are you planning to tell the difference between my personal VPN and my work VPN?

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                        Either just banning remote work or more realistically you'll need a permit for running a vpn server. Permit pricing starting at 100k a year

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                          Either just banning remote work or more realistically you'll need a permit for running a vpn server. Permit pricing starting at 100k a year

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                          How many small businesses can afford such permit? Hell, I'd argue that even bigger companies will have a problem paying for that.

                          Also, what if I just connect to a vps overseas and set my exit point there? Will they ban vps too? This is gonna be so much fun to see from the outside

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                            If this comes to anything I'm moving to somewhere in the EU and pursuing citizenship there. This is clearly not about protecting the children anymore (not that it ever was).

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                            EU is about to do the exact same thing. Norway is the place to be. That's where I went - at least according to my ip address.

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                            • T [email protected]

                              Prominent backbench MP Sarah Champion launched a campaign against VPNs previously, saying: “My new clause 54 would require the Secretary of State to publish, within six months of the Bill’s passage, a report on the effect of VPN use on Ofcom’s ability to enforce the requirements under clause 112.

                              "If VPNs cause significant issues, the Government must identify those issues and find solutions, rather than avoiding difficult problems.” And the Labour Party said there were “gaps” in the bill that needed to be amended.

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                              "It has come to our attention that we haven't fascismed hard enough, nor in sufficient detail"

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                                Prominent backbench MP Sarah Champion launched a campaign against VPNs previously, saying: “My new clause 54 would require the Secretary of State to publish, within six months of the Bill’s passage, a report on the effect of VPN use on Ofcom’s ability to enforce the requirements under clause 112.

                                "If VPNs cause significant issues, the Government must identify those issues and find solutions, rather than avoiding difficult problems.” And the Labour Party said there were “gaps” in the bill that needed to be amended.

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                                Man I can't follow UK politics. I thought Labour was a progressive party

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                                • N [email protected]

                                  Then, we move to the socks proxy, or tor, or other options I haven’t even considered yet.

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                                  I am pretty sure they would consider tor as using a VPN.

                                  Probably they would demand ISPs to run lists of known VPN addresses and if you connect to them, they will forward the information to the anti-terrorism unit and you will get SWATed.

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                                  • mannycalavera@feddit.ukM [email protected]

                                    the Government must identify those issues and find solutions, rather than avoiding difficult problems

                                    The government: Parents have you tried being a parent to your children?

                                    Parents: Oh lord no that's too difficult can't you just, I don't know lol, ban it or something?

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                                    In my English textbook, ca. 2007 there was a comic of a child in a cage hanging outside the house. The father told the neighbor something like "This way they get out of the house, but stay off the streets."

                                    I think that hit quite well, what many consider parenting in the UK.

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                                    • Z [email protected]

                                      Why not just ban all human rights while you're at it?

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                                      The anti-terror unit needs to fill its new vacancies first. Do you know ho many enforcers it takes to arrest a single man in a wheelchair?


                                      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M8p6Log2E9Q

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                                        Prominent backbench MP Sarah Champion launched a campaign against VPNs previously, saying: “My new clause 54 would require the Secretary of State to publish, within six months of the Bill’s passage, a report on the effect of VPN use on Ofcom’s ability to enforce the requirements under clause 112.

                                        "If VPNs cause significant issues, the Government must identify those issues and find solutions, rather than avoiding difficult problems.” And the Labour Party said there were “gaps” in the bill that needed to be amended.

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                                        Not even China can ban VPN entirely, because businesses use it as a security measure.

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                                          Ban remote working, vpn now only allowed from business addresses as registered with companies house.

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                                          VPN in businesses is mostly to secure internal use infrastructure against external threats. Use for remote working is an afterthought.

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