Poll: Which abandoned Android phone features do you miss the most?
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You really gonna put a tv remote on your lockscreen?
Yeah, that's how I had my old HTC One M8 set up. I didn't have a full numpad setup or anything; just power, volume, and channel. I had a separate widget for my ceiling fan, too.
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Sub 5" screen, 3.5mm jack, removable battery, 2-stage camera shutter button.
My old Sony Xperia XZ1 Compact had all of those, except for the removable battery.
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It always surprises me that so many people still want this. I know it's representative of the anti-choice homogenisation of phones in general, but something like removable batteries or expandable storage seems so much more important than a dedicated old headphone connector.
I personally hate how annoying headphone wires are, but even if you like them then is it so inconvenient to leave an adapter connected to your headphones? And a splitter as well if you're desperate to charge simultaneously?
Wired does not mean "old", it means faster, more reliable, better for the environment and cheaper too!
In the time that some very affordable studio headphones last me, I'd have to buy about 5 or so similarly priced BT headphones or 10 pairs of true wireless ear buds. Turns out adding complexity to a device and powering it with a non replaceable battery makes it way less reliable and worse for the environment.
On top of that, wireless almost always implies audio compression. (but in fairness that won't be noticeable for everyone)
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Yeah, that's how I had my old HTC One M8 set up. I didn't have a full numpad setup or anything; just power, volume, and channel. I had a separate widget for my ceiling fan, too.
Fair enough! That does actually sound perfectly serviceable.
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You can believe what you want. I didn't hear it from a conspiracy theorist, I heard it from Edward Snowden, and this was actually old news when he mentioned it, but his revelation on national TV made it even more widely known.
"Coincidentally" it was right around the time Snowden blew the whistle that Android manufacturers started switching over to non-replaceable batteries.Yes Apple are greedy fucks and it's obvious that forcing iPhone users to get their phones repaired by a 'genius' was a part of their strategy from the beginning. But Android manufacturers who didn't have a repair store they could force their users to use and wouldn't benefit from that were happy to continue letting users replace their own batteries, because it was a legitimate benefit for the consumer and way to differentiate themselves from Apple.
I'm sure that phone manufactures save a few pennies by forcing users to either buy a new phone or pay an expensive repair bill, but I'm pretty sure that isn't the only reason it's done.
Edit: Even if you ignore their ability to wiretap you when your phone is 'powered off', the fact remains that the government can and does track you by you cell phone and removing the battery is a great way to stop that.
Of course, it's not the only way- If you feel like you don't want to be tracked for any reason a Faraday bag is a decent option. It makes your phone less useful, but so would removing the battery.
wrote last edited by [email protected]Non replaceable batteries benefit android manufacturers as it simplifies manufacturing. And they dont care about repairs post warranty... thats just incentive to buy another one. You dont need a grand conspiracy to explain that.
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Rear fingerprint scanner PLEASE
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There's an app iirc that lets you plug headphones in and it somehow uses them as an antenna..
Oh wait, no more headphone jack!
The phone has to have an ADC hardware to allow that.
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Stereo front facing speakers.
I have no idea why these terrible downward facing speakers took off, HTC had it nailed in 2012. RIP, king of smartphones. I'm glad to at least have 2 proper speakers on my Fold6 and 7, rather than an amplified earpiece speaker... But this is just not how sound works. I shouldn't have to cup my hand around the side to point the sound in the proper direction.
I'm certain I had that same htc one. It was the best phone i ever had. I really wish someone would make something like that again.
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I just want the LG G5 back. It had a(n):
- Removable battery
- SD card slot
- Infrared blaster
- FM Radio
- 3.5mm jack
- Compass
- Barometer
- Gyro
- NFC
- Fingerprint reader
And a ton of other stuff. Truly the best android phone ever made
Closest I can find now is the Ulefone line (no removable battery) but I have no idea if they're decent phones or not.
Samsung xcover 6 pro
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Isn't having an OLED display and using it as an "always on display" the replacement for this?
Yeah, and unless it's only activating a few pixels at a time it's not the same.
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I can see it on my pixel, but it might be because I have the app for my earbuds. I'll test.
wrote last edited by [email protected]I have a pair of Galaxy Buds (1st Gen) and they are the only headphones that still display a battery icon. Not sure if I'm missing something obvious but it feels very much like the type of anti-consumer walled garden change Samsung would make these days in its "copy Apple" era.
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Non replaceable batteries benefit android manufacturers as it simplifies manufacturing. And they dont care about repairs post warranty... thats just incentive to buy another one. You dont need a grand conspiracy to explain that.
Non replaceable batteries benefit android manufacturers as it simplifies manufacturing. And they dont care about repairs post warranty… thats just incentive to buy another one.
That was true from 2006-2016 as well, but most Android manufacturers still offered user replaceable batteries. If you believe that there is no correlation- that's fine. I don't buy it though, the timing is just too perfect for it to be a coincidence.
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Non replaceable batteries benefit android manufacturers as it simplifies manufacturing. And they dont care about repairs post warranty… thats just incentive to buy another one.
That was true from 2006-2016 as well, but most Android manufacturers still offered user replaceable batteries. If you believe that there is no correlation- that's fine. I don't buy it though, the timing is just too perfect for it to be a coincidence.
You know its a really easy to prove against, right? Just have some basic radio spectrograph to detect any signals coming from a turned off phone.
In reality, the correlation is phones continue to get thinner, making it near impossible to create a battery and battery connector small enough and still be resistant to a 200lb ape handling it.
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I don't want a camera in the first place. I haven't taken a selfie since 2014.
But if you're going to have one you don't need a forehead/chin. My Xperia can fit a camera in a "forehead" of under 2mm. Thinner than most punchholes and on par with the "forehead" of many mid-range phones WITH a hole. And it gets more room for a full second front firing speaker, to boot.
They could have spent all this time making the "forehead" thinner like that. Instead, they obsessed with fitting the body to the screen and added an annoying hole to it. Typically one that is deeper into the screen than a small camera space would otherwise, so if you want to give up the screen space to avoid the distraction you end up with a WAY bigger "forehead" than my Xperia has.
So no, punch holes and notches are dumb, they don't expand the screen meaningfully and they provide no functionality. They're a bug, not a feature. I'd take an under-screen selfie camera at most, and those are very rare these days, too.
My Xperia can fit a camera in a “forehead” of under 2mm. Thinner than most punchholes and on par with the “forehead” of many mid-range phones WITH a hole. And it gets more room for a full second front firing speaker, to boot.
And people wonder why the Xperia costs so much lol. That shit costs a lot of money to properly engineer, money most people don't want to pay.
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Why do you need to buy more than one?
wrote last edited by [email protected]Because they break.
Whether is a Samsung or apple adapter, after some time it won't function, and it's always the cable.
I have to buy be proper one, on plastic.Ps: they cost 10cad.
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Fair enough, though would you be happy if there were significant improvements made to usb-c port build quality?
Audio jack is still better, as someone else said in another comment: https://feddit.uk/post/33629763/19026566
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My Xperia can fit a camera in a “forehead” of under 2mm. Thinner than most punchholes and on par with the “forehead” of many mid-range phones WITH a hole. And it gets more room for a full second front firing speaker, to boot.
And people wonder why the Xperia costs so much lol. That shit costs a lot of money to properly engineer, money most people don't want to pay.
It certainly doesn't cost more than an under-screen display where you need to both engineer a tiny screen of less dense see-through pixes AND the right setup to counter the blur you induce on the software side.
All the Xperia needs is a camera small enough that you can put it right against the top edge, so... I mean, it's not going to be a huge high resolution sensor, but it's good enough for what it needs to be. It's certainly not the major driver of cost for the device. The rear tele camera that has a movable optical zoom is probably a bigger issue (and not particularly good, they could have gone with something cheaper).
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You know its a really easy to prove against, right? Just have some basic radio spectrograph to detect any signals coming from a turned off phone.
In reality, the correlation is phones continue to get thinner, making it near impossible to create a battery and battery connector small enough and still be resistant to a 200lb ape handling it.
You know its a really easy to prove against, right?
Why would I need to prove it? You didn't read any of the articles I linked to did you? The fact that they have the ability to do this is not even a question. The government admitted that it was able to do this all the way back in 2006.
Just have some basic radio spectrograph to detect any signals coming from a turned off phone.
The claim isn't that the FBI/NSA/CIA/ICE whoever is doing this constantly to everybody, it's that they have the capability to do this to anybody, which again isn't even a question. I'm not really worried about being spied on personally (yet) and even if I were I'd just leave my phone at home or put it in a Faraday bag, I'm not going to carry around a 'basic radio spectrograph' and whip it out every time I want to have a private conversation.
In reality, the correlation is phones continue to get thinner
Lol, that's like saying I lost weight because I bought smaller pants. Yeah, designers are able to make phones thinner when they are able to design around non-replaceable batteries. Was anyone asking for thinner phones? They had the ability to make thinner phones by disallowing replaceable batteries for a decade and did not.
Were consumers demanding that phone manufactures make phones worse by removing useful features like replaceable batteries or headphone jacks- or was these anti-features foisted upon us?
If it had been just some manufactures that switched, or if those manufacturers that did switch had offered the option of different models, some with replaceable batteries and some without, and then consumers chose the worse phones- I might not be as convinced.
As it is now with 99.9% of all phones you can buy not even giving you the option, I'm not buying it.
It's not like this is some crazy off the wall theory. I'm not saying the Earth is flat or we didn't land on the moon. We know that the government is using our cell phones to track us, we know they have the capabilities to do so. The only question is did governments (I guarantee it's not just the U.S) make deals with/ask/or put pressure on manufactures to incentivize the switch. That's not really far fetched at all.
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Stereo front facing speakers.
I have no idea why these terrible downward facing speakers took off, HTC had it nailed in 2012. RIP, king of smartphones. I'm glad to at least have 2 proper speakers on my Fold6 and 7, rather than an amplified earpiece speaker... But this is just not how sound works. I shouldn't have to cup my hand around the side to point the sound in the proper direction.
Probably because of edge-to-edge screens?
I had a Moto X Style and remember being quite fond of the speakers.
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You know its a really easy to prove against, right?
Why would I need to prove it? You didn't read any of the articles I linked to did you? The fact that they have the ability to do this is not even a question. The government admitted that it was able to do this all the way back in 2006.
Just have some basic radio spectrograph to detect any signals coming from a turned off phone.
The claim isn't that the FBI/NSA/CIA/ICE whoever is doing this constantly to everybody, it's that they have the capability to do this to anybody, which again isn't even a question. I'm not really worried about being spied on personally (yet) and even if I were I'd just leave my phone at home or put it in a Faraday bag, I'm not going to carry around a 'basic radio spectrograph' and whip it out every time I want to have a private conversation.
In reality, the correlation is phones continue to get thinner
Lol, that's like saying I lost weight because I bought smaller pants. Yeah, designers are able to make phones thinner when they are able to design around non-replaceable batteries. Was anyone asking for thinner phones? They had the ability to make thinner phones by disallowing replaceable batteries for a decade and did not.
Were consumers demanding that phone manufactures make phones worse by removing useful features like replaceable batteries or headphone jacks- or was these anti-features foisted upon us?
If it had been just some manufactures that switched, or if those manufacturers that did switch had offered the option of different models, some with replaceable batteries and some without, and then consumers chose the worse phones- I might not be as convinced.
As it is now with 99.9% of all phones you can buy not even giving you the option, I'm not buying it.
It's not like this is some crazy off the wall theory. I'm not saying the Earth is flat or we didn't land on the moon. We know that the government is using our cell phones to track us, we know they have the capabilities to do so. The only question is did governments (I guarantee it's not just the U.S) make deals with/ask/or put pressure on manufactures to incentivize the switch. That's not really far fetched at all.
wrote last edited by [email protected]Was anyone asking for thinner phones? They had the ability to make thinner phones by disallowing replaceable batteries for a decade and did not.
A. They did not have the ability because doing so would reduced battery capacity because the tech is battery still maturing.
B. Apparently people are asking because people are still buying. Just because me and you arent asking doesnt mean the greater market isnt.
As it is now with 99.9% of all phones you can buy not even giving you the option, I'm not buying it.
A. That would mean the entire world is in on the conspiracy.
B. I cant buy a small truck in america. Does that mean there is a grand conspiracy?
