What is something you never understood the hype for?
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Original question by @[email protected]
Dark Souls games.
Or Final Fantasy games.
Or GTA.
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Nirvana.
The band.I missed the grunge movement in its peak but I got into Pearl Jam and Soundgarden. Just couldn’t get into Nirvana beyond a few songs that I do like. Musically, I feel like both Pearl Jam and Soundgarden dwarf Nirvana.
I love Nirvana. I think a good case can be made that Nirvana were the only grunge band and that the others like you mentioned were grunge only in that they shared a fashion. They aren't really the same genre of music, just look. IMHO.
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Same reason some people are into watching video games, talent shows or even actors.
There's loads of interest to be found in spectating a skilled display of any activity if you truly engage with it IMO.
I sometimes watch sports I've barely got a grasp of the rules for just out of fascination. GAA hurling is the most recent one I can recall getting sucked into for an afternoon.
i think there's some sports that are a bit acquired tastes, like I don't think the skill is immediately apparent the first time watching soccer, it's "just people running around". The strategy, technique etc is not immediately apparent. As opposed to like skateboard tricks or dry tooling/ice climbing competitions, which also have depth but are impressive without any prior knowledge, imo.
For me personally, it's the fan aspect I don't get. What's the point of projecting the us vs. them mentality on some team, "we won", and foflowing a team almost religiously, even building ones own identity around it, at least in part. In general, getting so emotionally invested in it, i don't understand. And it seems to mostly be a team sport thing.
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I feel like this is only one specific type or partying where you go to a business. There are many forms of DIY partying which involve spending less money and allow you to see and speak to people that you are parting with.
Yeah, that I understand more. At least for people who are more extroverted than I am, lol. But being in a setting in which you can see and hear people while not needing to pay insane prices sounds way more reasonable.
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Alcohol. Or drugs for that matter. But alcohol is the one that actually pisses me off when depicted in media. It's always some character downing a glass of something and then having this super happy face and enjoying themselves. Like, fuck off? Anyone I know who drinks doesn't even enjoy the flavor of it, and it being romanticized into this fancy, social drink is genuinely infuriating.
As for drugs, I just don't understand the reason why someone would want to alter their mental capabilities.
Trauma
Trauma can easily make it where you can't stand your own thoughts or how you feel. So anything that augments that can be very attractive.I'd day mental health too, even if you don't have known traumas. Major depression, etc. But I know women who can't relax or aren't very intimate unless they drink. But as someone with an alcoholic father, alcohol has some big dark sides. Even if you are happy when you drink, it can really mess your brain up.
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Having read Kurt's journals, they wanted to be mid. They were capitalizing on the success of other bands and implementing their styles. They weren't trying to change the world, they just wanted to get paid to make decent music
Not putting any of this on their feet. Maybe they wanted to be mid but that's not how history seems to remember them.
Nirvana is still hyped as one of the greatest bands ever. Maybe it was revisionism after Kurt's death? But whatever it is, I feel like their music doesn't deserve the hype it gets today.
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I love Nirvana. I think a good case can be made that Nirvana were the only grunge band and that the others like you mentioned were grunge only in that they shared a fashion. They aren't really the same genre of music, just look. IMHO.
Or that their music evolved with the times? I'll be the first to admit that I don't understand genres, but I feel like early Soundgarden albums sounded very close to Nirvana's sound, but later albums became more rock?
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Not putting any of this on their feet. Maybe they wanted to be mid but that's not how history seems to remember them.
Nirvana is still hyped as one of the greatest bands ever. Maybe it was revisionism after Kurt's death? But whatever it is, I feel like their music doesn't deserve the hype it gets today.
Whatever their intentions, they were massively influential and changed grunge forever and that's not something that should be understated
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Whatever their intentions, they were massively influential and changed grunge forever and that's not something that should be understated
For sure.
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Partying. The whole idea of dressing up to leave one’s home after dark to visit a dimly lit, overly crowded place with overpriced drinks and snacks and music so loud you can’t hear yourself think.
Seems entirely unnecessary. I feel like social connection is so much easier when you can see and hear each other. Being able to get enough sleep and not needing to pay through the nose for 5 peanuts is also nice.
We had this cool medieval style basement tavern where we hammered nails in a stump with an axe, threw axes, played darts, drank beer out of horns and got wasted
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i think there's some sports that are a bit acquired tastes, like I don't think the skill is immediately apparent the first time watching soccer, it's "just people running around". The strategy, technique etc is not immediately apparent. As opposed to like skateboard tricks or dry tooling/ice climbing competitions, which also have depth but are impressive without any prior knowledge, imo.
For me personally, it's the fan aspect I don't get. What's the point of projecting the us vs. them mentality on some team, "we won", and foflowing a team almost religiously, even building ones own identity around it, at least in part. In general, getting so emotionally invested in it, i don't understand. And it seems to mostly be a team sport thing.
Hopefully I can illuminate
Team sport fandom traditionally trends with locality. You grow up with going to the local football stadium on the weekend as one of the options for how you spend your time. Your mates have the same choices, so even if you never pick it, you're gonna hear about it at the very least
If you spend your time with a team, you get to know the players (which is kinda parasocial in most instances, ngl) and in many cases watch them grow over the years into incredible athletes.
Naturally, people end up proud of the people they support, doing well. It's part of the human condition
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Hopefully I can illuminate
Team sport fandom traditionally trends with locality. You grow up with going to the local football stadium on the weekend as one of the options for how you spend your time. Your mates have the same choices, so even if you never pick it, you're gonna hear about it at the very least
If you spend your time with a team, you get to know the players (which is kinda parasocial in most instances, ngl) and in many cases watch them grow over the years into incredible athletes.
Naturally, people end up proud of the people they support, doing well. It's part of the human condition
That makes sense, though at least where I'm from it's usually not local. At least people seem to care most about soccer and ice hockey teams that are not from where they grew up or where they live. Maybe more handed down by parents?
It's mostly that shared parasocial relationships are weird to me. Like, the benefit of a parasocial relationship is that it helps with loneliness and fill social needs without any pressure. But a shared parasocial relationship, idk. You get pressure/obligations from your peers and you actually have a friend group for fulfilling social needs. at least i never felt an urge to combine my parasocial and social relationships.
I mean, if it was just some activity you did to spend time with friends, sure, i get it. But it seems like the sport itself is more central than a group of friends, to the point of getting ostracized for liking another team. Or getting into fights over which team is better, that kind of stuff. I know that's not how everyone interacts with team sports, but there is a sizable chunk of people that do take it pretty seriously, and that's where I don't follow why they do that and what they get out of it.
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We had this cool medieval style basement tavern where we hammered nails in a stump with an axe, threw axes, played darts, drank beer out of horns and got wasted
Sounds awesome!
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Partying. The whole idea of dressing up to leave one’s home after dark to visit a dimly lit, overly crowded place with overpriced drinks and snacks and music so loud you can’t hear yourself think.
Seems entirely unnecessary. I feel like social connection is so much easier when you can see and hear each other. Being able to get enough sleep and not needing to pay through the nose for 5 peanuts is also nice.
By extension. Going out for drinks. Spending 5x for alcohol served to be briskly by someone overworked and tip them...
Maybe I'm just cheap but I'd rather just drink at a friends house or my own home.
This way I'm safer and can pass out if I need to.
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"Reality TV". Could anythjng be more contrived yet obviously "make it up as you go along"?
Interdimensional cable is arguably better.
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The TV Series or the real estate scam by the rich?
The tv series.
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By extension. Going out for drinks. Spending 5x for alcohol served to be briskly by someone overworked and tip them...
Maybe I'm just cheap but I'd rather just drink at a friends house or my own home.
This way I'm safer and can pass out if I need to.
I just don’t drink alcohol in the first place (and also don’t get the hype, lol), but I can see how it makes more sense at a friends house.
