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No fighting back said the teacher

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  • W [email protected]

    How is it different? There are plenty of Israelis who condemn Netanyahu and his atrocities. They should be killed because they were born in the wrong nation and more of their neighbors supported this leader?

    I agree. We should give the Israelis defensive missiles. But only after we've given the Gazans enough military aid to protect their own skies against incursion by the Israelis. After all, the Gazans are clearly the ones in much objectively greater need. We only have so many missiles to give. We need to give them to those with the greatest need. Once the Gazans are well defended, then we can worry about providing aid to the wealthy country.

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    Oh absolutely. We should be leveraging Israel’s aid to ensure compliance for Palestinian aid delivery and maintaining safe routes.

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      The analogy is so stupid since the rockets fired at israel dont kill the people murdering palestinians. They kill everywhere they land.

      So more fitting would be taking away the bullet proof wests of the people cowering down behind the mass shooter

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      • geneva_convenience@lemmy.mlG [email protected]

        No she said "I am in favor of giving them free interceptors so their victims cannot retaliate."

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        "Killing children is ok as long as they're Israeli."

        You're showing your hand a little too much. You're supposed to pretend to take the high road so that progressives feel they can't make a difference and fascists win by default. Don't forget your mission.

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          A 6 month old baby who has no control over being born in Israel literally can’t do anything to help the cessation of violence.

          A 6 month old baby in Gaza is very likely to die of starvation or in a bombing. I don't see you giving a shit.

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          I give just as much of a shit.
          Being on the side of humanity is not hard to understand. Innocent lives should be protected. Period. They literally have no control over their nationality, and it's childish to believe they do.

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            Imagine you're in Mexico during that situation and watching people who support the US genocide feign neutrality and then claim they're on the side of humanity.

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            I have been in that situation, since one of the most powerful cartels in the nation burnt down my home resulting in the death of my older sister.

            The problem with such conflicts is that there's no clear simple solution because the perpetrators (in my case and Gaza) feed off immense amounts of American weapons and money, both political, corporate, and dark.

            It takes a lot of imperfect efforts to starve the beast, and MTG is not gonna offer any such opportunities.

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              Oh absolutely. We should be leveraging Israel’s aid to ensure compliance for Palestinian aid delivery and maintaining safe routes.

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              No. I'm talking about giving Iron Dome batteries to the command of Gazan militia forces. If we are going to support Israeli armed self defense, we also need to support Gazan armed self defense. I'm not talking food aid here. I'm talking missiles.

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                I have been in that situation, since one of the most powerful cartels in the nation burnt down my home resulting in the death of my older sister.

                The problem with such conflicts is that there's no clear simple solution because the perpetrators (in my case and Gaza) feed off immense amounts of American weapons and money, both political, corporate, and dark.

                It takes a lot of imperfect efforts to starve the beast, and MTG is not gonna offer any such opportunities.

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                So wait, you support the USA arming the cartels?

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                  So wait, you support the USA arming the cartels?

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                  The USA both fed the cartels and also trained and armed the Mexican Marines that combat them.

                  Is that ideal? Of course the fuck not.

                  Ideally, you would not have fucking meddled with our country or any other for that matter.

                  But what is done is done, and if you stop funding to the various programs put in place to combat the cartels, the cartels ain't fucking going anywhere until you dumb nuts finally ban guns-- and well, I don't see that happening any time soon.

                  I support people understanding that conflicts are far more nuanced and difficult to resolve than one would think.

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                    The USA both fed the cartels and also trained and armed the Mexican Marines that combat them.

                    Is that ideal? Of course the fuck not.

                    Ideally, you would not have fucking meddled with our country or any other for that matter.

                    But what is done is done, and if you stop funding to the various programs put in place to combat the cartels, the cartels ain't fucking going anywhere until you dumb nuts finally ban guns-- and well, I don't see that happening any time soon.

                    I support people understanding that conflicts are far more nuanced and difficult to resolve than one would think.

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                    But the analogy here was to continuing arming Israel. Why have you switched to supporting arming anti-cartel programs when the original analogy was funding the cartels.

                    Do you or do you not support the US continuing to arm the cartels?

                    I support people understanding that conflicts are far more nuanced and difficult to resolve than one would think.

                    You would have said the same about the Holocaust.

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                      But the analogy here was to continuing arming Israel. Why have you switched to supporting arming anti-cartel programs when the original analogy was funding the cartels.

                      Do you or do you not support the US continuing to arm the cartels?

                      I support people understanding that conflicts are far more nuanced and difficult to resolve than one would think.

                      You would have said the same about the Holocaust.

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                      These arguments are so disingenuous.

                      None of us have any clue about the nuances within the bills being proposed, unless we actually take the time to read them-- which most of us have not.

                      All I'm trying to argue is that AOC has a right to be concerned about an amendment because she is thinking of the unintended consequences behind the proposals.

                      Of course I want Israel to receive zero fucking dollars from the US, but I am thinking of our pull out from Afghanistan and all the fucking allies left behind to die.

                      There's enough intelligence in the room to come up with something that doesn't lead to more deaths.

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