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UK households could face VPN 'ban' after use skyrockets following Online Safety Bill

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  • moseschrute@lemmy.worldM [email protected]

    Can we develop a new VPN protocol where the encrypted traffic is disguised as a 24 hour continuous stream of Never Gonna Give You Up

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      Prominent backbench MP Sarah Champion launched a campaign against VPNs previously, saying: “My new clause 54 would require the Secretary of State to publish, within six months of the Bill’s passage, a report on the effect of VPN use on Ofcom’s ability to enforce the requirements under clause 112.

      "If VPNs cause significant issues, the Government must identify those issues and find solutions, rather than avoiding difficult problems.” And the Labour Party said there were “gaps” in the bill that needed to be amended.

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      Banning VPNs is quite a serious move.

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        I don't think it's that centralized. Just some elite somewhere pushes through what elites everywhere would want, and they try to do the same around it.

        Like spread of a disease.

        I think the way to fight it is similar. Unions, customer associations, parties (not for election, but for having as many people as possible for mutual aid and actions ; it might even be counterproductive to get into government, since that breeds expectations which are not delivered upon, which hurts the party ; better to do volunteer projects without using state power as much as possible).

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        Yeah, I don’t think it is, but it’s the end result that concerns me.

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          Were you never a child? I formatted my family pc and reinstalled windows xp in 5th grade, and used a proxy to circumvent the schools online filter in 7th grade.

          Children are not as stupid as you seem to think

          VPNs also accept many anonymous payment methods that happen to be easily accessible to children, like gift cards. And free VPNs exist

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          Where there is a will there is a way, I guess.

          Still, a possible ban on VPNs affects way bigger group of business and adult users than the number of tech savvy kids.

          Where should the line be drawn? How much rights should everyone have to give up so that little techie Billy can’t hack his way to see some titties?

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            I’m uninformed. What’s the reason for the porn ID thing? Is it just porn or more?

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            If data is collected that can be used for blackmail, it will eventially be used for that purpose.

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              I mean anyone can rent a server in Europe and install OpenVPN themselves. Hell, it doesn't even need to open OpenVPN, Wireguard works just as well and is basically undetectable.

              Eat shit, UK government, for real. Idiots think that by speaking the same language as US fascists they can have similarly dumb ideas.

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              It would have been my go to. But they can detect openvpn and other protocols. I would just use a ssh tunnel with squid proxy. The squid wont cache ssh traffic unless you run your own cert and set up the squid that way. It will however seamlessly allow you to connect through a ssh tunnel with one port forward.

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                So now it's not just TERF island but also nazi island.

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                Every society has its pathway there. TERFs are one of the last milestones.

                GB has really wanted to go fascist autocratic since Germany looked over in the 1920s and saw a like minded kin.

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                • portnull@lemmy.dbzer0.comP [email protected]

                  https://use-their-id.com/

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                  Holy shit that is brilliant...

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                    It would have been smarter for the UK to mandate that every ISP must provide a family filter for free as part of their service. Something that is optional and can be turned on or off by the account holder but allows parents to set filters (and curfews) if they want. They could even require that ISPs require new signups to affirm if they want it on or off by default so people with families are more likely to start with it enabled.

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                    Exactly. This was turned on on my professional phone so that was always an option.

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                      Enterprises will love that. A perfect excuse to end wfh. However, this will cripple business travelers. I'm sure there'll be some exception for corporations where they can exercise maximum control over their employees while still being allowed to generate capital.

                      Hey UK: suck it.

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                      Ive got a few UK coworkers that will be out of the job if anything disables VPNs. They voted for that mess now they can sleep in their 1/3 salary local jobs too.

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                        It would have been smarter for the UK to mandate that every ISP must provide a family filter for free as part of their service. Something that is optional and can be turned on or off by the account holder but allows parents to set filters (and curfews) if they want. They could even require that ISPs require new signups to affirm if they want it on or off by default so people with families are more likely to start with it enabled.

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                        The new Christian nationalist orders are not so patient. Even Charles X of France rolled back rights too speedily, sparking public outcry resulting in Parisian haircuts. (a bit off the top 🪟🔪)

                        SCOTUS used to be sneakier, carving out sections of fourth- and fifth-amendment protections, but since Dobbs the Federalist Society Six have tossed subtlety and reason to the wind and now adjudicate away rights based on vibe and conservative rhetoric grievance.

                        Hopefully the US and UK both will recognize why the French public was swift to act when manarchists took shears to the Napoleonic Code.

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                          There has been a widespread misconception that China operates a nationwide and unitary social credit "score" based on individuals' behavior, leading to punishments if the score is too low. Media reports in the West have sometimes exaggerated or inaccurately described this concept.[4][5][6] In 2019, the central government voiced dissatisfaction with pilot cities experimenting with social credit scores. It issued guidelines clarifying that citizens could not be punished for having low scores and that punishments should only be limited to legally defined crimes and civil infractions. As a result, pilot cities either discontinued their point-based systems or restricted them to voluntary participation with no major consequences for having low scores.

                          https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_Credit_System

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                          This is, if true and accurate, delightful news! And has improved an otherwise troublesome day.

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                            Ive got a few UK coworkers that will be out of the job if anything disables VPNs. They voted for that mess now they can sleep in their 1/3 salary local jobs too.

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                            A VPN is just a proxy. I don't see how this would be enforced.

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                            • uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zoneU [email protected]

                              The new Christian nationalist orders are not so patient. Even Charles X of France rolled back rights too speedily, sparking public outcry resulting in Parisian haircuts. (a bit off the top 🪟🔪)

                              SCOTUS used to be sneakier, carving out sections of fourth- and fifth-amendment protections, but since Dobbs the Federalist Society Six have tossed subtlety and reason to the wind and now adjudicate away rights based on vibe and conservative rhetoric grievance.

                              Hopefully the US and UK both will recognize why the French public was swift to act when manarchists took shears to the Napoleonic Code.

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                              Lots of ridiculous-looking people in politics today. They could use some haircuts.

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                                Huh. I’m also “moving” soon. Any reason for Norway over Switzerland?

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                                Norway is fine.

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                                  Enterprises will love that. A perfect excuse to end wfh. However, this will cripple business travelers. I'm sure there'll be some exception for corporations where they can exercise maximum control over their employees while still being allowed to generate capital.

                                  Hey UK: suck it.

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                                  They couldn't switch off VPNs for businesses. I work in a hospital and we use VPNs to create secure tunnels to other third party health care companies as well as NHS adjacent health services amongst other things. This is to protect patient sensitive data amongst other things. This would cripple our service and go against NHS england and government requirements for the secure transfer and sharing of data.

                                  This would have to be public VPNs only. Despite the fact that it would be complete bullshit either way.

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                                  • samus12345@sh.itjust.worksS [email protected]

                                    They're Labouring very hard for the corporations.

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                                    If they ban VPN's that's going to hit corporations harder than the average person.

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                                      A VPN is just a proxy. I don't see how this would be enforced.

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                                      An encrypted proxy. Thats a pretty hefty distinction.

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                                        Prominent backbench MP Sarah Champion launched a campaign against VPNs previously, saying: “My new clause 54 would require the Secretary of State to publish, within six months of the Bill’s passage, a report on the effect of VPN use on Ofcom’s ability to enforce the requirements under clause 112.

                                        "If VPNs cause significant issues, the Government must identify those issues and find solutions, rather than avoiding difficult problems.” And the Labour Party said there were “gaps” in the bill that needed to be amended.

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                                        Nanny state

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                                          Next step: ban on remote work.

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                                          It's not just remote work. All our manufacturing sites use to VPN connections data centres. It would cripple manufacturing on an epic scale if they were instabanned.

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