Too bad we can't have good public transportation
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Chinese government can print an infinite amount of Yuan out of thin air.
That's not how any of this works. Sure they can do that, but they cannot control the effects of having done so.
Ok, so infinite Yuan is a hyperbole, but for something so relatively cheap and so massively beneficial as rail, profitability really doesn't matter. China has more than enough resources and influence to eat the cost now and reap the benefits for the next century.
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Now do aircraft carriers!
Aircraft carriers don't let me travel to my destinations
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Weird to compare a brutal dictatorship which violates human rights on the regular vs a democracy which violates human rights a little less.
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America: if ain’t broke don’t fix it
Every other country: yah it’s time, what are our new requirements?Then there’s “if it ain’t broke… how can we break it to extract a few extra bucks from it?”
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Weird to compare a brutal dictatorship which violates human rights on the regular vs a democracy which violates human rights a little less.
So far...give Trump time and he'll catch right up.
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I wonder if the early proliferation of rural cars / mega expressways kinda fucked us. When your transportation network grows around trains, upgrading the trains/rails makes good economic sense. We just kind of spread out everywhere quickly and made the train locations somewhat irrelevant.
Its so naive to think that this was the cause lmao
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i mean from what i read there is only one country with more ppl die in traffic which is india
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liste_der_Länder_nach_Verkehrstoten
but good they have a few trains for 1 billion ppl. sure thats going to help. LOL. -
This one is from 2024
Let that sink in
Home not alone, just unfinishedOne swallow does not make it summer.
Shall we continue this path to see which one runs out first of resources?Sorry, what do developers abandoning large housing projects have to do with longevity of train infrastructure?
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I would say that there's quite a lot of reason to believe that infrastructure investments can be one of the best ways to help poor people rise economically. Which has obvious paybacks.
This still requires creating infrastructure that is actually needed, otherwise it's just wasting money (which ultimately is just an abstraction over wealth, opportunity, materials, workers' finite time and energy, etc etc).
infrastructure investments can be one of the best ways to help poor people rise economically
And specifically consider how much we can help by not requiring all the expenses of owning a car. Transit and intercity rail could be among the best investments when you consider those indirect benefits. Such a shame that short sighted people want them to be profitable in utilization
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i mean from what i read there is only one country with more ppl die in traffic which is india
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liste_der_Länder_nach_Verkehrstoten
but good they have a few trains for 1 billion ppl. sure thats going to help. LOL.Congratulations, you figured out that China is a large country! It would be ridiculous to think that a country with 1.4 billion people would have less people dieing in traffic than a country with a smaller population.
If you just go by absolute numbers, a large country will have more of absolutely everything than a small country.
Now go back to your link and sort by "Je 100.000 Einwohner" and see how that changes the list.
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Aircraft carriers don't let me travel to my destinations
Your fault that you weren't born as an aircraft!
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Are you suggesting that's why the US hasn't improved trains? Is there something about train improvements specifically that you think is harmful?
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Wut
You read that and were like "who cares about human lives and rights, why doesn't he want trains?"
Yeah, love trains, and as far as I'm concerned the US can replace all its highways with trains
But not at the expense of a couple of humans per kilometers because the government doesn't give a shit, or worse, you're an Uyghur
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You say that, but... Iraq was a dictatorship, and they weren't all that efficient at anything other than killing Kurds.
That's because they're politically illiterate. The important difference is the economic model and its end goal. Is it to make a small elite super rich? Is it to meet the peoples' needs? The US is extremely efficient in creating a small class of super rich people (and by that I mean corporations too) while China is extremely efficient in switching to renewable energy and expanding high speed rail.
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Weird to compare a brutal dictatorship which violates human rights on the regular vs a democracy which violates human rights a little less.
a brutal dictatorship which violates human rights on the regular
Don't you think you're a little harsh on the US?
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I wonder if the early proliferation of rural cars / mega expressways kinda fucked us. When your transportation network grows around trains, upgrading the trains/rails makes good economic sense. We just kind of spread out everywhere quickly and made the train locations somewhat irrelevant.
We just kind of spread out everywhere quickly and made the train locations somewhat irrelevant.
Do you know any US history
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We just kind of spread out everywhere quickly and made the train locations somewhat irrelevant.
Do you know any US history
I know enough that it wasn't so much lobbying as it was advertising to the to the US citizens that made cars more popular. Ford figured out how to make it affordable then a bunch of companies that stood to make money on cars bought up streetcars and shut them down in favor of busses, but that doesn't actually answer the demise of long distance rail.
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You say that, but medical debt? Homelessness? Ice concentration camps for brown people? Highest incarceration rates, social credit (credit score), pedophile leaders...
Europeans, feel free to complain about China. Americans have no right to complain about China.
Not to be a tankie, but China taking over the US government would be an improvement
I AM European.
Having said that, the US is a shit show and the Empire pretty much needs to be rebuilt from scrap at this point but it's still better than China.
If you disagree I would suggest you go to China and start posting lots of tiananmen square videos from the 90's and then tell me which place is better.
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I AM European.
Having said that, the US is a shit show and the Empire pretty much needs to be rebuilt from scrap at this point but it's still better than China.
If you disagree I would suggest you go to China and start posting lots of tiananmen square videos from the 90's and then tell me which place is better.
yhea, that's not nearly as bad as paying taxes to a pedophile to finance a death camp for brown people.
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Not just trains but all transportation services and systems is severely lacking in this country. Along with crumbling infrastructure and terrible build quality of cars and trucks and you got a recipe for disaster. But no one will care cuz Merica!
yeah it's so funny when people think the US has good car infrastructure, the truth is that the US just generally fucking sucks
yeah sure there's a lot of interstate highways which i guess you can consider good, but most people aren't using them for very large distances, most people are driving to and from work every day and that part is so hilariously miserable that i don't think people in the rest of the world truly believe it's a real thing that happens..
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I am as American as Pancetta.
It is just the glorification of China that is rubbing me the wrong way.Their buildings are collapsing. Yes, it is built fast, cheap and looks nice.
And then it fails.And the Chinese peope themselves. They suffer.
when you're used to propaganda that says china is awful, seeing people say "china is pretty okay actually" looks like glorification.
No one is saying china is amazing, they're saying china is not actively stabbing themselves in the stomach. China is doing the blitheringly obvious things a country like that should be doing, things that most other countries can't be arsed to do because the people in power benefit from the status quo of things being shit.
They're not perfect, things go over budget and things get built shittily by bad companies, just like what happens in every other country on earth.
