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Arab States Call for Hamas to Disarm Amid Push for a Palestinian State

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  • zero@fek.xyzZ This user is from outside of this forum
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    The surprise move, in a declaration endorsed on Tuesday by the 22 member nations of the Arab League, also condemned Hamas’s Oct. 7 attacks on Israel, which set off the devastating war in Gaza.

    Archive - https://archive.is/JvfvN

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      The surprise move, in a declaration endorsed on Tuesday by the 22 member nations of the Arab League, also condemned Hamas’s Oct. 7 attacks on Israel, which set off the devastating war in Gaza.

      Archive - https://archive.is/JvfvN

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      If there suddenly would really be a Palestinian state then Hamas would become one of the most successful rebel/freedom fighter organizations ever.

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      • zero@fek.xyzZ [email protected]

        The surprise move, in a declaration endorsed on Tuesday by the 22 member nations of the Arab League, also condemned Hamas’s Oct. 7 attacks on Israel, which set off the devastating war in Gaza.

        Archive - https://archive.is/JvfvN

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        They should ask end of occupation instead

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        • zero@fek.xyzZ [email protected]

          The surprise move, in a declaration endorsed on Tuesday by the 22 member nations of the Arab League, also condemned Hamas’s Oct. 7 attacks on Israel, which set off the devastating war in Gaza.

          Archive - https://archive.is/JvfvN

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          Trying to imagine them asking this of Ukraine.

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            Trying to imagine them asking this of Ukraine.

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            Trying to imagine them asking this of Russia.

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              Much easier, as NATO's been gunning for that for decades

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                Disarming russia and israel would be cool. Ukraine and palestine should not drop arms till they are safe from occupation

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                • jeena@piefed.jeena.netJ [email protected]

                  If there suddenly would really be a Palestinian state then Hamas would become one of the most successful rebel/freedom fighter organizations ever.

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                  They wouldn't be the ones recognized by the international community, though. That would most likely go to the Palestinian Authority. They've always been preferred over Hamas.

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                    They wouldn't be the ones recognized by the international community, though. That would most likely go to the Palestinian Authority. They've always been preferred over Hamas.

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                    Regardless, it would still make Hamas successful in reaching the goal of a Palestinian state. And if statehood was recognized then Hamas could immediately disarm and hand control over to the Palestinian army, which would find itself in sudden need of soldiers and leaders.

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                    • zero@fek.xyzZ [email protected]

                      The surprise move, in a declaration endorsed on Tuesday by the 22 member nations of the Arab League, also condemned Hamas’s Oct. 7 attacks on Israel, which set off the devastating war in Gaza.

                      Archive - https://archive.is/JvfvN

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                      the war that was instigated by BIBI, have they not forgotten that. the arab states, are definitely afraid of palestinians flooding thier borders, for the sole reason in the past they had cause uprising in countries wherever they fleed.

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                        The surprise move, in a declaration endorsed on Tuesday by the 22 member nations of the Arab League, also condemned Hamas’s Oct. 7 attacks on Israel, which set off the devastating war in Gaza.

                        Archive - https://archive.is/JvfvN

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                        I usually have 0 confidence in the Arab states to do anything good, but this headline is misleading. What's being called for here is for Hamas to disarm and hand over its weapons to the Palestinian Authority in the process of creating a Palestinian state, which is like, duh of course independent paramilitaries shouldn't exist inside a sovereign state. It's technically a call for Hamas to disarm, but they had to have known what impression this headline would give. Fuck NYT.

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                          Trying to imagine them asking this of Ukraine.

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                          Apart from both being the attacked ones, they have not much in common.

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                            Apart from both being the attacked ones, they have not much in common.

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                            Because Ukraine was allowed some level of sovereignty after the Sovjet Union collapsed, whereas Palestinians have been denied sovereignty ever since the British and French carved up the carcass of the Ottoman empire.

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                              Because Ukraine was allowed some level of sovereignty after the Sovjet Union collapsed, whereas Palestinians have been denied sovereignty ever since the British and French carved up the carcass of the Ottoman empire.

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                              Just your friendly reminder that Hamas != Palestinians.

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                                Just your friendly reminder that Hamas != Palestinians.

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                                Right now Hamas and other armed groups are the only ones preventing Israel from the total extermination of all Palestinians in Gaza.

                                If it wasn't for the armed resistance, Israeli soldiers wouldn't rely on using food to bait starving people into the fire of the death squads. Without armed resistance they could just go house to house.

                                But also over the past two decades. Without armed resistance in Gaza, Israel wouldn't have stopped annexing Gaza with settlements. Only because the resistance made that too costly, Israel abandoned its settlements and turned Gaza into an open air prison instead.

                                You are right, that Palestinians are not equal to Hamas. As the supporters of Israels like the US and most Europeans always helped Israels in its crimes, rather than stopping them, armed resistance is the only lifeline for the Palestinian people.

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                                  The surprise move, in a declaration endorsed on Tuesday by the 22 member nations of the Arab League, also condemned Hamas’s Oct. 7 attacks on Israel, which set off the devastating war in Gaza.

                                  Archive - https://archive.is/JvfvN

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                                  The Arab states don’t give a fuck about Palestinians. The Palestinian authority doesn’t give a fuck about Palestinians. What’s the point of this?

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                                    The Arab states don’t give a fuck about Palestinians. The Palestinian authority doesn’t give a fuck about Palestinians. What’s the point of this?

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                                    The point is to shift the blame for all of Israel's atrocities onto Hamas. The Arab rulers are losing their grip, they've been exposed as Zionist collaborators and there's growing resentment from their people.
                                    That's been their angle this past year, people are getting disappeared in Jordan and Egypt right now if they say anything that can remotely be taken to imply the government isn't doing enough to help Gaza, and they are cracking down on public displays of support of Hamas; and state media is pushing hard the narrative that people are tired of the war and Hamas is being unreasonable and Hamas Hamas Hamas.

                                    This is for the sheep in the population that haven't woken up yet, and for Western liberals who still believe in all these governments. Meanwhile, Israel is planning to annex the West Bank.

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                                      I usually have 0 confidence in the Arab states to do anything good, but this headline is misleading. What's being called for here is for Hamas to disarm and hand over its weapons to the Palestinian Authority in the process of creating a Palestinian state, which is like, duh of course independent paramilitaries shouldn't exist inside a sovereign state. It's technically a call for Hamas to disarm, but they had to have known what impression this headline would give. Fuck NYT.

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                                      Why should palestinians drop arms before occupation end? How can you say that when israeli support ethenically cleansing palestinians?

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                                        Apart from both being the attacked ones, they have not much in common.

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                                        Not true. Israel and russis has very similar talking points

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                                          Just your friendly reminder that Hamas != Palestinians.

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                                          Sure but hamas is more popular than the palestinian autority, most palestinians do not support hamas dropping arms

                                          https://pcpsr.org/en/node/997

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