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  • superapples@lemmy.worldS [email protected]

    When I worked for a big game studio, we had a clan, as did many of the other big studios in the country. Every lunch we'd join the same servers. Battlefield, TF2, StarCraft... good times. Well, good lunch times.

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    They let you out of your crunch cages?!

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      California is so bizarre, you get mandated lunch breaks but god forbid you want full time employment without risk of being fired at any time for no reason

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      I think that's a common US blue state issue. NY is the same. Mandated 15-min, and lunch breaks every few hours, but still "At-Will"

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        This is false. You cannot be fired without reason, you can be fired for any legal reason which will vary from state to state, which may be more strict (for employers) than federal law.

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        "No reason" IS a legal reason to fire someone in an At-Will state (which is the entire US excepting Montana).

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          requirements for doing your work efficiently cannot be considered out of work, including transport.

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            Wait, so you don't eat for 8 hours?

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            Intermittent fasting is a decent way to lose weight without thinking too hard about calorie counting. You stop feeling hungry during the day after a week or two.

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              Wait, there's jobs where people don't get payed for their lunch break? I thought that was a scary myth.

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              Almost all jobs in America...

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                They let you out of your crunch cages?!

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                Thankfully, lunchtime is pretty well enforced by law in Australia... didn't prevent the "reasonable overtime is included in your base salary" contract clause, where "reasonable" is defined by the publisher, though.

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                  Almost all jobs in America...

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                  *Almost all non-salary jobs in America

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                  • thatweirdguy1001@lemmy.worldT [email protected]

                    It used to be 5th hour about a decade ago but DeWine be DeWining

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                    Well that makes sense, pro business DeWine does something that hurts the workers.

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                      Almost all jobs in America...

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                      My god. You poor souls. Its illegal to do that here. Even the most demanding "squeeze every minute out of the worker" jobs don't do that. 30 min out of your 8 hours is reserved for lunch and lunch is payed for by the employer (the food as well), by law. 8 hour shift effectively comes out to a maximum of 7.5 hours of actual work.

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                      • goldholz@lemmy.blahaj.zoneG [email protected]

                        An american joke i am too european to understand

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                        Classic Europeans on the Internet trying to make fun of [bad thing that happens in the US] without realising it also happens in Europe

                        Germany:

                        If you work between 6 to 9 hours a day, you are entitled to a 30-minute break after no later than 6 hours. If you work more than 9 hours a day, the break is extended to 45 minutes. Labour law prohibits taking the break at the end of the day’s work in order to leave earlier.

                        France:

                        As soon as your daily working time reaches 6 hours immediately, you must have a break of at least 20 minutes consecutive

                        The break is granted:

                        • Either immediately after 6 hours of work[, or]
                        • before this 6-hour period is completed

                        United Kingdom:

                        Employers can say when employees take rest breaks during work time as long as:

                        • the break is taken in one go somewhere in the middle of the day (not at the beginning or end)
                        • workers are allowed to spend it away from their desk or workstation (ie away from where they actually work)

                        American states set their own labour laws, but the ones of the state where I live (Oregon) are actually far more generous than comparable ones in Europe. I am entitled by law during an eight-hour working day to one 30-minute lunch break (not paid) and two additional 10-minute breaks (counts as time worked and is paid). Meaning I get 50 minutes of breaks in a day and the employer has to pay me during 20 minutes of those breaks. My employment contract actually gives me a 1-hour lunch break in addition to the two 10-minute breaks, which isn't required by law but is not uncommon.

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                          My god. You poor souls. Its illegal to do that here. Even the most demanding "squeeze every minute out of the worker" jobs don't do that. 30 min out of your 8 hours is reserved for lunch and lunch is payed for by the employer (the food as well), by law. 8 hour shift effectively comes out to a maximum of 7.5 hours of actual work.

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                          Yeah it used to be like that here, too. But billionaires have been attacking union power for decades to the point they were able to pull this bullshit

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                            *Almost all non-salary jobs in America

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                            You think most salary jobs aren't giving you specific working hours these days, which generally span 9 hours a day but pay you based on 40 hours a week?

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                              but it only becomes normalized because workers fail to hold the line. the rich business owners in charge have been busting unions and brainwashing people with anti-union propaganda for decades.

                              Unions have been attempted more times than they've succeeded, not because of workers failing, but because powerful people have power and will do whatever dirty tactics they can to keep it.

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                              Unions have been attempted more times than they’ve succeeded

                              I get what you mean, but I can't resist the urge to point out that that's basically a truism. The number of successes must be greater or equal than the number of attempts by definition, since a success without an attempt is not possible.

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                              • natenate60@lemmy.worldN [email protected]

                                Classic Europeans on the Internet trying to make fun of [bad thing that happens in the US] without realising it also happens in Europe

                                Germany:

                                If you work between 6 to 9 hours a day, you are entitled to a 30-minute break after no later than 6 hours. If you work more than 9 hours a day, the break is extended to 45 minutes. Labour law prohibits taking the break at the end of the day’s work in order to leave earlier.

                                France:

                                As soon as your daily working time reaches 6 hours immediately, you must have a break of at least 20 minutes consecutive

                                The break is granted:

                                • Either immediately after 6 hours of work[, or]
                                • before this 6-hour period is completed

                                United Kingdom:

                                Employers can say when employees take rest breaks during work time as long as:

                                • the break is taken in one go somewhere in the middle of the day (not at the beginning or end)
                                • workers are allowed to spend it away from their desk or workstation (ie away from where they actually work)

                                American states set their own labour laws, but the ones of the state where I live (Oregon) are actually far more generous than comparable ones in Europe. I am entitled by law during an eight-hour working day to one 30-minute lunch break (not paid) and two additional 10-minute breaks (counts as time worked and is paid). Meaning I get 50 minutes of breaks in a day and the employer has to pay me during 20 minutes of those breaks. My employment contract actually gives me a 1-hour lunch break in addition to the two 10-minute breaks, which isn't required by law but is not uncommon.

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                                France goes even harder saying you aren't even allowed to eat at your desk

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                                  But then you phone them at 14:00 and they've already left

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                                  • socsa@piefed.socialS [email protected]

                                    France goes even harder saying you aren't even allowed to eat at your desk

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                                    Thats also in germany

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                                      Reminder: the traditional "9 to 5" workday that is considered "full time" includes lunch. If you're not getting paid for it or are working 8 to 5 or whatever, you're getting swindled.

                                      You might say it's "normal" now, but it only becomes normalized because workers fail to hold the line.

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                                      That's why they make it 9-5:30

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                                        Reminder: the traditional "9 to 5" workday that is considered "full time" includes lunch. If you're not getting paid for it or are working 8 to 5 or whatever, you're getting swindled.

                                        You might say it's "normal" now, but it only becomes normalized because workers fail to hold the line.

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                                        It keeps eroding away. I've had skilled jobs where the expectation was 8-5 without any breaks at all. "If you need to eat, you can do it at your desk while you're working."

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                                          It's more about reducing fatigue and minimising workplace accidents than workers rights.

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                                          I still think it's a good rule. Sitting on your ass for 8 hours straight isn't healthy, so no matter the motivation it has positive consequences.

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