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Very funny joke about this in 28 Years Later.
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A soldier shows a kid (who has been on the island in quarantine) a picture of his (modern day Botox using) girlfriend on his phone.The kid asks “what is wrong with your girlfriend?”
The soldier thinks nothing is wrong. “She’s beautiful what do you mean?”
The kid then tells a story about a woman who looked like that in his small village when she ate shellfish.
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There's a classic survivorship bias where people think all Botox is bad because we always see the obvious gaffs and just assume that good Botox is natural. Botox is a lot more common than people think, it's usually just a touch-up
That being said. It puts me off how often you see celebrities with botched jobs. You would think that with all the resources at their disposal they would get the best. And if the best cant do it at least 90% of the time there's no way you're putting me under the needle of whoever I can afford.
Not that I really have a strong desire to get Botox right now, but I don't know who I'll be in the future.
If there’s anything other than simply “very damaged personalities,”I think it’s probably a sense that as celebrities they need to freeze time or even turn it back to stay competitive in their field. When cosmetic procedures work, it’s because doctors communicate the limits of what can be achieved while passing for natural, the patient accepts that, and the work is done well. If any of those pillars breaks, it looks bad. If any of them breaks for a celebrity, it goes viral.
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It's not a one-and-done treatment. You need to keep going back, so the doctor's incentivised to make sure you still want to come back.
Botox injections are used as a treatment for migraines sometimes, so it wouldn't be that weird for this conversation to happen in that context. (I know it's a joke)
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It's effective if your headaches are tension headaches. It works by paralyzing the muscles that pull on your scalp and skull, so if you get headaches from anything besides muscle tension, it's not going to work for you.
wrote last edited by [email protected]Tension headaches are an extremely common migraine trigger, hence the popularity of using botox as a treatment.
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Tension headaches are an extremely common migraine trigger, hence the popularity of using botox as a treatment.
I just wanted to clarify for those folks that have other triggers so that they don't pursue a treatment that isn't always covered by insurance and is unlikely to work for them.
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House of Fools S2E2:
JULIE: So, Vic, how much younger do you think I'll look?
VIC: Well, you won't look a lot younger, Julie, but you will look a lot more alert and surprised.
JULIE: Fabulous, because there's a new fishmonger in town and I want to look surprised and startled when he shows me his turbot.
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Very funny joke about this in 28 Years Later.
::: spoiler Tap for spoiler
A soldier shows a kid (who has been on the island in quarantine) a picture of his (modern day Botox using) girlfriend on his phone.The kid asks “what is wrong with your girlfriend?”
The soldier thinks nothing is wrong. “She’s beautiful what do you mean?”
The kid then tells a story about a woman who looked like that in his small village when she ate shellfish.
:::I was just telling my wife about this scene today. She had a woman at her work with massive fake tits today. Bigger than her body kind of huge. As she was telling me about her she said "who wants a plastic woman?"....the perfect segway for this scene.
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Most botox patients are there for therapeutic reasons; it's a common and (if it works for you) extremely effective treatment for chronic migraines.
It's also used for people who grind their teeth and clench their jaws at night. Injecting it into the jaw muscles can reduce the damage to teeth and tempomandibular joints.
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Everything's a toxin at a high enough dosage. And even at that dosage they can still be therapeutic. See: chemotherapy, as an extreme example.
With botox specifically, it has applications outside of just making lizard-faces. Off the top of my head, it's used as a treatment for migraines by injecting it into the back of the scalp - any swelling/filling effect it has is concealed by the hair anyway, unless the patient is bald.
Right, yeah, I am talking about purely cosmetic uses. There's always a risk associated with a botox injection, but if it can heal something or mitigate a different risk, it may be worth it.
And botox is injected at a dosage where it is toxic. That's how it paralyzes the muscles. If it's accidentally injected into a vein or at somewhat too high of a dosage, you can have complications like botulism or death.
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Keep em trapped with fear of ugliness.
when ironically the shit is making most of them uglier.
like, what the fuck is this even?
https://www.thelist.com/1784977/kristi-noem-unrecognizable-throwback-pic-before-plastic-surgery/
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I’m perfectly fine with looking my age. I have earned every day of my age, dammit!
yep. I'm not aged, but my body shows the miles, and I have zero concern about the people who judge looks. I clean up nicely a few times a year.
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I answered higher up, but sunscreen (I use mineral sunblock but the Korean chemical sunscreens are really good too) in the morning, and Retin-A (prescription 0.1%) at night are for sure the two best things you can do to keep your skin in good shape. Consistency really pays off. Even if you sometimes forget the sunscreen - putting it on day after day with a few misses is better than using it only when you think you need it.
Men's face skin is slightly thicker than women's but otherwise the same, and superficially the same.
Appreciate the response. I did search for a routine earlier and have a Retinol cream on the way. I also found a recommendation for eye cream as well so I’ll give that a try too. I forgot about the Korean sunscreen options as I read on Lemmy a while back that (in general) they tend to be of higher quality than anything domestic.
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I was just telling my wife about this scene today. She had a woman at her work with massive fake tits today. Bigger than her body kind of huge. As she was telling me about her she said "who wants a plastic woman?"....the perfect segway for this scene.
Well now, fake tiddies, I'll allow it.
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I can't say who's better one is just shaved
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Yeah guys get Botox.
I'm older lady and get seen as younger, but it's years of Retin-A and sunscreen and fitness. Occasional peels, micro needling, hotshot skincare but I don't love what Botox does to faces. If I was swimming in money I'd eventually get a facelift, but still would never want to do fillers or botox. Maybe the "biostimulatory" fillers that improve skin without adding volume if we ever get them here. Basically - I'm not opposed to interventions but specifically don't like the Botox look.
To myself I look my age but good for my age, not younger. But others seem to interpret that as younger.
This is the way to go IMO, live your age! People obsessed with being 20 when they are 40 (for example) probably need a shrink not a face lift.
Sunscreen (or just staying out of the nuclear reactors fallout, my skin is so white) and no stress is what I use
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There's a classic survivorship bias where people think all Botox is bad because we always see the obvious gaffs and just assume that good Botox is natural. Botox is a lot more common than people think, it's usually just a touch-up
That being said. It puts me off how often you see celebrities with botched jobs. You would think that with all the resources at their disposal they would get the best. And if the best cant do it at least 90% of the time there's no way you're putting me under the needle of whoever I can afford.
Not that I really have a strong desire to get Botox right now, but I don't know who I'll be in the future.
The thing about plastic surgery is that even if it's well-done, it doesn't last very long. A person' face continues to change, sometimes even more rapidly than would otherwise have happened because of all the damage and trauma caused by the surgery itself. So when you see someone with "good" plastic surgery, you've really just captured them at that brief moment in time before it all goes to shit.
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Do guys get Botox? I’ll admit at my mid 40s, I look like I’m in my mid 40s. I’m too lazy to pursue getting Botox but I like the mental fantasy of magically looking 10 years younger.
wrote last edited by [email protected]My mom stopped coloring her hair as soon as they started graying, because she wants to "look her age". Take from that what you want.
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There's a classic survivorship bias where people think all Botox is bad because we always see the obvious gaffs and just assume that good Botox is natural. Botox is a lot more common than people think, it's usually just a touch-up
That being said. It puts me off how often you see celebrities with botched jobs. You would think that with all the resources at their disposal they would get the best. And if the best cant do it at least 90% of the time there's no way you're putting me under the needle of whoever I can afford.
Not that I really have a strong desire to get Botox right now, but I don't know who I'll be in the future.
Body dysmorphia due to yes-men around you and the plastic surgeon doing what customer wants.
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Everything's a toxin at a high enough dosage. And even at that dosage they can still be therapeutic. See: chemotherapy, as an extreme example.
With botox specifically, it has applications outside of just making lizard-faces. Off the top of my head, it's used as a treatment for migraines by injecting it into the back of the scalp - any swelling/filling effect it has is concealed by the hair anyway, unless the patient is bald.
Everything's a toxin at a high enough dosage.
Stop there with the excuses, it's get's used because it's high enough dose to cause harm.
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Well now, fake tiddies, I'll allow it.
Can't believe people are so lazy, they are implanting water beds into their bodies.
