Child labour with 10 years of experience, 'AI-native' accepting 250k lines of Cursor code
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The CEO also looks underage, graduated last year after an internship with Microsoft. I can’t find any record of investment in the company or even any record of incorporation (to be fair I didn’t look very hard). The CEO and his whizz-kid AI coder may be the two smartest people on the planet - stranger things have happened - but statistically, and going by available data only, listening very much to a teenager (or thereabouts) hawking the skill of another teenager (confirmed) is a bit like watching two drunk kids in town thumping their chests.
For sure younger people will grow up to replace older people - such is the way of the world - and a salty coder is usually undertaken by fresh talent coming in with new skill sets (been on both sides of that), but right now, there’s nothing demanding attention here.
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I'm 8-10 years from retirement and I'm fine with this. I always knew younger, better coders will come along. Anyone holding on to their 90s or 00s coding skills... Well... Good luck with that.
That, and this kid is still the very rare exception. I don't think he's representative of most 18 year olds.
If it's even true, this is like a 9 yo kid hitting a flip switch dumping 30 tons of sand. But repeatedly all day long. Good luck cleaning it all up.
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boasting about child labour...Sir are you by any chance from Florida?
Sir I do believe the term you are looking for is "student af-uh-leets"
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I really like it when company representatives openly boast their use of AI.
Makes it easy for me to put in a list of "Do not buy from" companies.
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I really like it when company representatives openly boast their use of AI.
Makes it easy for me to put in a list of "Do not buy from" companies.
He's explicitly selling AI based solutions, so luckily everyone sensible skips over that right away.
I can't imagine integrating AI to my codebases to a meaningful degree. I've worked mostly with health or financial syatems. Accuracy is of utmost importance. Imagine your paycheck is half what it should be because of AI.
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He's explicitly selling AI based solutions, so luckily everyone sensible skips over that right away.
I can't imagine integrating AI to my codebases to a meaningful degree. I've worked mostly with health or financial syatems. Accuracy is of utmost importance. Imagine your paycheck is half what it should be because of AI.
Imagine your paycheck is half what it should be because of AI.
If that were to happen it won't be due to AI, it would be them using AI as a scapegoat.
Because they would definitely make sure to add a check to make sure I didn't get more than that.
Even if they replace you with AI, they will make sure to call you back and pay you 10x your time for that 1 thing. -
Imagine your paycheck is half what it should be because of AI.
If that were to happen it won't be due to AI, it would be them using AI as a scapegoat.
Because they would definitely make sure to add a check to make sure I didn't get more than that.
Even if they replace you with AI, they will make sure to call you back and pay you 10x your time for that 1 thing.The company doing the payroll software isn't the company paying you though
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The company doing the payroll software isn't the company paying you though
I was thinking about payment processors and banks.
They might debit more from the payer's account and credit less to the payee's account and that way at the end of the FY, they will have this happy coincidence of having higher than anticipated credit from the Reserve Bank. -
boasting about child labour...Sir are you by any chance from Florida?
Child labor? He's a senior in high school, it's common to have a job at that age.
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Child labor? He's a senior in high school, it's common to have a job at that age.
He is being presented as a person who is being tasked with writing entire code bases and the same job as a senior developer. Even if we give him the benefit of doubt and assume that he is being paid handsomely (which I doubt since we are all very well aware of the mentality of such people whose sole goal is to use AI coders to pay as less as possible, none if possible), the responsibilities involved in this is a full time job, not the part time job most high schoolers do during summer time. Even then it is not "common" for high schoolers to work unless you have never left US. In many places, there are some that do unfortunately do need to work due to economic reasons. But rarely outside of US it is presented as excellent work ethics and patriotism. It is more common for people in mid to late university years to start working as "interns" not full time developers. Also see:
"The Convention on the Rights of the Child defines a "child" as a person below the age of 18, unless the relevant laws recognize an earlier age of majority."
So if you are going to boast about a kid who is producing massive code bases, at least say something like "wow he is still not eighteen but look at what this kid is doing", do not try to present that as the new norm. That is just pathetic greedy skill-less, spineless wanna-be intrapreneur behaviour.
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And they'll wonder in 6 months why the application runs like shit, randomly crashes, doesn't load, etc. Bunch of untrackable issues in the making. Gg, good luck
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He is being presented as a person who is being tasked with writing entire code bases and the same job as a senior developer. Even if we give him the benefit of doubt and assume that he is being paid handsomely (which I doubt since we are all very well aware of the mentality of such people whose sole goal is to use AI coders to pay as less as possible, none if possible), the responsibilities involved in this is a full time job, not the part time job most high schoolers do during summer time. Even then it is not "common" for high schoolers to work unless you have never left US. In many places, there are some that do unfortunately do need to work due to economic reasons. But rarely outside of US it is presented as excellent work ethics and patriotism. It is more common for people in mid to late university years to start working as "interns" not full time developers. Also see:
"The Convention on the Rights of the Child defines a "child" as a person below the age of 18, unless the relevant laws recognize an earlier age of majority."
So if you are going to boast about a kid who is producing massive code bases, at least say something like "wow he is still not eighteen but look at what this kid is doing", do not try to present that as the new norm. That is just pathetic greedy skill-less, spineless wanna-be intrapreneur behaviour.
I knew more than a few 17 year olds who dropped out of high school to work full time. One was emancipated. A few eventually got their GEDs. It's not an easy life, but it's reality for a lot of people.
If he's capable of handling that level of responsibility I don't see any reason he shouldn't be allowed to. If he's not capable, then the only person being harmed is his employer. Only thing I'm concerned about is whether or not he's being compensated fairly.
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He is being presented as a person who is being tasked with writing entire code bases and the same job as a senior developer. Even if we give him the benefit of doubt and assume that he is being paid handsomely (which I doubt since we are all very well aware of the mentality of such people whose sole goal is to use AI coders to pay as less as possible, none if possible), the responsibilities involved in this is a full time job, not the part time job most high schoolers do during summer time. Even then it is not "common" for high schoolers to work unless you have never left US. In many places, there are some that do unfortunately do need to work due to economic reasons. But rarely outside of US it is presented as excellent work ethics and patriotism. It is more common for people in mid to late university years to start working as "interns" not full time developers. Also see:
"The Convention on the Rights of the Child defines a "child" as a person below the age of 18, unless the relevant laws recognize an earlier age of majority."
So if you are going to boast about a kid who is producing massive code bases, at least say something like "wow he is still not eighteen but look at what this kid is doing", do not try to present that as the new norm. That is just pathetic greedy skill-less, spineless wanna-be intrapreneur behaviour.
AI makes it pretty trivial to vomit out large amounts of code. 250,000 lines is nothing. The code quality is garbage, of course, and will be hell to maintain in the coming years. It will likely just be rewritten again if the company is still around.
If there’s one thing high school students have a ton of it’s free time. When I was that age I put thousands of hours into video games and got nothing to show for it. I applaud this kid for turning his high school hobby into a paycheque.
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He is getting paid $15.50/hr
Which is the state minimum wage.I assumed they were in Estonia from the names
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Why the fuck does he have 2 Laptops and 2 additional monitors? It would annoy the hell out of me having to reach out to change something on one of the laptops.
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Why the fuck does he have 2 Laptops and 2 additional monitors? It would annoy the hell out of me having to reach out to change something on one of the laptops.
You may not like it, but this is what peak performance looks like
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I knew more than a few 17 year olds who dropped out of high school to work full time. One was emancipated. A few eventually got their GEDs. It's not an easy life, but it's reality for a lot of people.
If he's capable of handling that level of responsibility I don't see any reason he shouldn't be allowed to. If he's not capable, then the only person being harmed is his employer. Only thing I'm concerned about is whether or not he's being compensated fairly.
wrote on last edited by [email protected]Yes but I think the abnormality here is the guy trying to sell this as the new normal, not even to mention all the associated problems with basing an entire code base on AI (which is a different problem than boasting about getting kids to write your whole code base but related)
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This has to be rage bait.
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Yes but I think the abnormality here is the guy trying to sell this as the new normal, not even to mention all the associated problems with basing an entire code base on AI (which is a different problem than boasting about getting kids to write your whole code base but related)
Yeah, the whole situation is definitely eyebrow raising.
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250000 lines accepted.
While attempting to fix 3 individual issues.