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Spotify fans threaten to return to piracy as music streamer introduces new face-scanning age checks in the UK

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  • F [email protected]

    "Protecting children" is just the pretext under which governments can sell increased surveillance. The fact that there are more effective ways they could act to protect children, yet governments everywhere continue to push for ID checks and monitoring online activity, shows that the aim isn't what they say it is.

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    Protect from what? I mean seriously. Most of us (guys at least) probably saw porn way before we were old enough and most of us probably didn't end up as rapists or pedophiles. It's not a good thing by any means, but it really feels like we're trying harder to keep sexual material from entering their brains than we are trying to keep them fed, clothed, educated, housed, healthy, loved, and physically safe. Of all the things I mentioned the last seven have a monumentally greater affect on their success and well-being as an adult.

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      If something's finally going to force the industry to curb its bullshit, this might just be it. Once you annoy normal people, it's all over. They seriously underestimate how many people would just stop using Spotify, or Youtube, or whatever other platform it is

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      I'm not convinced. Look at how Netflix made bank on killing off "sharing is caring."

      People are lazy, and if they want their easy Spotify fix, I fear they'll hand over their information and move on with their day.

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        Let this be a reminder to never turn away from piracy. It needs to constantly be in the background and if any company gets like they always do, then it comes back out. But if we let the knowledge fade away then it's impossible to rebuild it.

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          Protect from what? I mean seriously. Most of us (guys at least) probably saw porn way before we were old enough and most of us probably didn't end up as rapists or pedophiles. It's not a good thing by any means, but it really feels like we're trying harder to keep sexual material from entering their brains than we are trying to keep them fed, clothed, educated, housed, healthy, loved, and physically safe. Of all the things I mentioned the last seven have a monumentally greater affect on their success and well-being as an adult.

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          I'm convinced sex is used as a leveraging tool to control society.

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            that's like saying Amazon fans really lol

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            Well.... ...gestures to apple fans...

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              Not sure about all those political experiments in the internet. Maybe they just don't like HTTP ? Maybe it's time to make HTTP to join BBS ?

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                Does anyone have a good podcast app to replace Spotify that will keep track of progress across multiple devices? Bonus points if I can self host.

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                Antennapod with gPodderersync & Nextcloud?
                There are podcast apps for Nextcloud to play in the browser.

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                  While I want to agree. I feel like normal people are still not gonna give a shit.

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                  People underestimate that most "regular" people are a product and exist for something other than humanity.

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                    This is it. Theyve been going after encrypted messaging apps for a long time, ig they realized theyre not getting anywhere and figured to just hit it head on.

                    The internet has always circumvented this kind of shit, just look at TPB. The ones who are getting really beaten up by this is the older generations and the ones lacking technical know-how.

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                    Yep. β€œThe Net interprets censorship as damage and routes around it.”

                    LOL, wrong on that last point! Gen X and Millennials are generally hot shit on tech. It's the young folks who don't have a clue if something doesn't "just work". Present company excluded of course. πŸ™‚

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                      I'm convinced sex is used as a leveraging tool to control society.

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                        If something's finally going to force the industry to curb its bullshit, this might just be it. Once you annoy normal people, it's all over. They seriously underestimate how many people would just stop using Spotify, or Youtube, or whatever other platform it is

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                        It would have to get pretty bad before people would be willing to forgo convenience.

                        That stuff is a nasty drug, very addictive and people will sell everything they got to keep it. They'd rather pay and arm and a leg instead of learning a little technology so they could help themselves.

                        People will slave themselves to the company that lets them be the most ignorant person possible but still enjoy the fun of technology.

                        Could you imagine if all mobile devices stopped using face recognition to unlock phones? I'd be willing to bet that a big chunk of people wouldn't be able to use them at all. I'm surprised that google and apple haven't started charging extra for that.

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                          ngl, Spotify has become hot ass these days

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                          My favorite part is when the AI DJ plays some dumb song it's previously served up repeatedly, and then tells me how much I like it because I listen to it so often. I'd never choose to listen to it on my own, and the only reason I hear it is because Spotify keeps cramming it down my throat.

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                            Back to Piracy! βœŠπŸ΄β€β˜ οΈ

                            Really though? It isn't necessary. Use Bandcamp, you probably have half your artists covered. The rest - one of those Spotify alternatives: Tidal? Qobuz?

                            Personally I do selfhost btw. Jellyfin, though I heard of a better alternative specifically for music recently - and forgot the name again πŸ˜₯ Something lowercase, like a verb... "normalize" or some such. Navidrome! Thanks @[email protected]

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                              While I want to agree. I feel like normal people are still not gonna give a shit.

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                              They won't give a shit, but they're also lazy and won't bother setting up an account that requires ID and photo verification. Too much work. Maybe we'll even see somewhat of a recurrence of brick and mortar stores that sells music, movies, porn, etc.

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                                ah from shady porn sites, like spotify and wikipedia. definitely protect kids from porn there. /s

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                                So I feel like I'm now hearing more successful pushes for censorship through this stuff.

                                Just last week I learned how Texas has a bill that makes it so if anyone ever invested in green technology that they wouldn't be allowed

                                https://www.texastribune.org/2022/08/24/texas-boycott-companies-fossil-fuels/

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                                  Who taught you sex is a drug? As long as words mean their definitions, it's categorically not. Plus it's probably kinda harmful to pile on the stigma already surrounding sex by conflating it with drugs and all the stigma that comes with that.

                                  Hopefully I'm wrong, but it's kinda giving a nofap pseudoscience red flag to me.

                                  Parents definitely should be teaching their kids about this stuff at the appropriate time, but they should stick to the facts.

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                                  First they came for the sex, then they came after the drugs. Now they’re trying to take my rock and roll

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                                    They dont care about music, they want to make sure you are not listening to podcast they dont like.

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                                      First they came for the sex, then they came after the drugs. Now they’re trying to take my rock and roll

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                                      Did you know that rock and roll is actually a plate of spaghetti?

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                                        We have to protect wikipedia

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                                        Here's one way to help: https://kiwix.org/en/about-us/#our-story

                                        Download Wikipedia to your own device. If it's ever blocked or taken down you still have access and can help share information with others.

                                        You can download different versions (e.g. without images) and different languages based on your needs.

                                        There's other resources available via kiwix as well but I've not really explored them to be honest

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                                        • P [email protected]

                                          In Sweden pretty much anybody has Bank Id, an app which is connected to a bank account and which can function as a valid identification.

                                          App belongs a private company, but it's still trustworthy and everybody can sign government docs with that.

                                          This is how you should do age verification, through a third party app, not like any site will get your id/picture to just end in their DBs ready to be stolen.

                                          Every government should create an app for the online id, I don't get why this seems so hard to achieve.

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                                          Credit cards should roughly do the same, but both of those aren't "great" for privacy and really exists to make profiles of adults while pretending to negate the need for parents to parent (the only real way to reduce/prevent harms of kids witnessing age inappropriate media). Your ability to do financial transactions shouldn't be tied to your speech or content you view.

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