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Spotify fans threaten to return to piracy as music streamer introduces new face-scanning age checks in the UK

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  • alaknar@sopuli.xyzA [email protected]

    I think they just cannot live without an algorithm to recommend new music to them

    Oh, piss off. I just want to financially support artists for making something beautiful I enjoy. Streaming is the easiest because of space constraints. I still buy the CDs of my most favourite albums, but I cannot stress enough how great it is to NOT have to rip the MP3s every time, make sure the tags are good, etc.

    It's convenient.

    If you don't like Spotify's new ID check, kill your Spotify account and use an alternative - Tidal and Qobuz are both excellent.

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    I think if you send like a dollar to everyone on your playlist, it would end up being like 100 times more than they get from the system.

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      You can probably get a pirate hat online for a few bucks. And there are plenty of discoverability systems not based on integration with a subscription service.

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      I'd love something nicely automated

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        I am trying the following services the next few months:
        Tidal, deezer, qobuz and pirating

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        keep me updated!

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        • sad_detective_man@leminal.spaceS [email protected]

          yeeesh. I realize now that getting artists paid is obviously way less important to you than having somebody to verbally spar with. this is reductive and overall pretty naive to the actual experience of being in the workforce or trying to consume ethically.

          instead of shouldering the responsibility of being your debate partner, I'm going to bow out and bid you a good life 👍 perhaps somebody else here would like to take turns quote tweeting and making character assessments with you.

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          I realize now that getting artists paid is obviously way less important to you

          That's a very interesting take considering I'm against piracy and pro direct purchases from bands. Please, do explain how you ended up at that conclusion.

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            Soundcloud lets you play any song you want at any time, even on the free tier, and when you ask it to play a playlist, it only plays songs on the playlist.

            You can have recommendations from an algorithm if you choose, but it's encouraged rather than enforced.

            There are a lot more independent artists on it, and fewer big labels, or at least it feels that way because it doesn't seem to prioritise big labels over some person I've never heard of.

            Spotify has an annoy-users-until-they-pay model. If you deliberately piss me off, you're not getting any of my money. Soundcloud just has ads.

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            I like the random recommendations from time to time

            I'm a bit afraid that their algorithm is shit

            to be fair at this point I'm mostly on youtube music because it allows playing youtube videos as well, which sometimes is the only way of playing some musics

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              LOL 'Spotify fans' buch of losers

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              • alaknar@sopuli.xyzA [email protected]

                I realize now that getting artists paid is obviously way less important to you

                That's a very interesting take considering I'm against piracy and pro direct purchases from bands. Please, do explain how you ended up at that conclusion.

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                nah we're done. I already said but you don't listen. have a good night ✌️

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                  Thanks for recommending Navidrome. It looks really interesting.

                  I was using Spotify, but switched to Spotube. After Spotube was crippled, I was kind of aimless. I really liked having my music available on my cellphone and desktop. It looks like Navidrome will fill the gap perfectly.

                  You'd mentioned ripping CDs. Would you have some software, you'd recommend (Windows or Linux)? Preferably in FLAC.

                  I haven't looked at ripping software in a few years, but it was kind of tedious to set up and very manual to get the proper metadata, genres, and cover art. I've got a hundred CDs and that'll take awhile....

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                  Don't know if it's still what's recommended, but I use foobar2000 for ripping CDs to FLAC.

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                    tf is spotify "fans"? more like spotify "users"

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                      I am trying the following services the next few months:
                      Tidal, deezer, qobuz and pirating

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                      I've been on tidal for a few months now. It's not as feature rich as far as integrations and sharing a link to a track for your pals is hit or miss but it seems to have all the music i listen to and sounds a little better than spotify for the artists that upload max quality.

                      I did the import from spotify using their suggested vendor and only like 20 out of 8000 or so songs didn't transfer because they didn't have the artist on tidal.

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                      • clot27@lemmy.zipC [email protected]

                        tf is spotify "fans"? more like spotify "users"

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                        Fans of things that are provisioned by Spotify.

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                          If I am paying for my account personally, with a card in my name, what more do they need?

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                            I don't mind giving my date of birth to all the services I already pay for with credit card but face scanning? That's just creepy. Fuck off.

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                            It is 1970-01-01 like me, no?

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                              Tidal is pretty good these days. Qobuz too

                              And Bandcamp

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                              • redstrider@lemmy.worldR [email protected]

                                what's even the point of age gating "explicit" music?

                                "oh no! "Speak To Me" by Pink Floyd has the fuck word in it! can't let my kids hear it!"

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                                Just get me the kid bop version

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                                  There's a wide gap between "travelling to another country" and "listening to music."

                                  I'm not trying to go on holiday to Spotify

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                                  • chaoticentropy@feddit.ukC [email protected]

                                    If I am paying for my account personally, with a card in my name, what more do they need?

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                                    They want to scan your face to get as many images of people of stated ages to feed into their facial recognition system. Do not for one moment think it is for anything else.

                                    Edit: it is like how Facebook had a 10 years ago you looked like this! Post a new comparison photo today!' Specifically because they want to know how people age for their AI shit.

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                                    • redstrider@lemmy.worldR [email protected]

                                      what's even the point of age gating "explicit" music?

                                      "oh no! "Speak To Me" by Pink Floyd has the fuck word in it! can't let my kids hear it!"

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                                      We live in a rural part of Canada that has been left behind by modern times. Mostly by the choice of the residents. I grew up during satanic panic. It was crazy here. My wife and I let our kids listen to anything they want. They always have. They're 10 and 12.

                                      Their friends often comment about swear words and "sex, drugs and rock and roll" themes of the music they listen too. As an old man I get to regale them with stories of how crazy the Christians were over heavy metal and punk rock when I was a kid, including their grandma.

                                      Now I yell "you're gonna go to hell!" As a joke to them every time their friends bring it up and I am around.

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                                      • sethtaylor@lemmy.worldS [email protected]

                                        Tidal is pretty good these days. Qobuz too

                                        And Bandcamp

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                                        Bandcamp is owned by union busters. Only use on Bandcamp Friday for best effect.

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                                        • A [email protected]

                                          They want to scan your face to get as many images of people of stated ages to feed into their facial recognition system. Do not for one moment think it is for anything else.

                                          Edit: it is like how Facebook had a 10 years ago you looked like this! Post a new comparison photo today!' Specifically because they want to know how people age for their AI shit.

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                                          Well sure, the real reason is always data harvesting.

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