[OC] That’s not the reason we need you for
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Honestly, everything that machines can do, there are some people who love doing it, and there can be an art to it. And for each such thing, other humans hate doing it and prefer automation.
Some people love cleaning, but we have robot vacuums and mops.
Some people love cooking and baking, but we have packaged food that requires minimal or no preparation.
Some people love woodworking or glassblowing, but most of our furniture and household items are mass produced.
Some people love managing their own computer or phone, but most people prefer to just let the manufacturer and operating system do it for them.
Some people love growing food with manual tools, but most farming these days is done with automatic machines.
Some people love driving, others can't wait for self-driving cars or prefer public transport just so they don't have to drive.
The list goes on. Anything can be an art.
I don't know what my stance is on this. I think automation is necessary for the sheer quantities we need. I also think passionate professionals can nearly always do a better job than a machine, but it's obviously more expensive and can't keep up with demand.
I guess the difference is that drawing and writing only have value as art. If I don't like drawing I almost never have to do it, but if I don't like preparing food I either suck it up and do it anyway hating every moment, or it can be (and, in fact, is) a serious detriment for my health and well-being.
Right, personally I don't like cooking and would be fine with automating that (instead of just ordering/heating junk food).
The most important thing is not to replace stuff completely, but give the choice to each and every individual person themselves. Great if it's available, also great if you don't want to use it.
And if you use it, don't be a dick and claim it was you who did it.
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the reason we need you || what we need you for
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Honestly, everything that machines can do, there are some people who love doing it, and there can be an art to it. And for each such thing, other humans hate doing it and prefer automation.
Some people love cleaning, but we have robot vacuums and mops.
Some people love cooking and baking, but we have packaged food that requires minimal or no preparation.
Some people love woodworking or glassblowing, but most of our furniture and household items are mass produced.
Some people love managing their own computer or phone, but most people prefer to just let the manufacturer and operating system do it for them.
Some people love growing food with manual tools, but most farming these days is done with automatic machines.
Some people love driving, others can't wait for self-driving cars or prefer public transport just so they don't have to drive.
The list goes on. Anything can be an art.
I don't know what my stance is on this. I think automation is necessary for the sheer quantities we need. I also think passionate professionals can nearly always do a better job than a machine, but it's obviously more expensive and can't keep up with demand.
I guess the difference is that drawing and writing only have value as art. If I don't like drawing I almost never have to do it, but if I don't like preparing food I either suck it up and do it anyway hating every moment, or it can be (and, in fact, is) a serious detriment for my health and well-being.
wrote last edited by [email protected]love cleaning
Freaks
robot vacuum
That doesn't really work and spies on you. Still requires human intervention.
cooking
Not if you want it to taste good. You're thinking of restaurants.
some people get off on being pwnd
That's a serious problem on so many levels.
furniture
You think i wouldn't like some good handmade shit that will last firever instead of this ikea crap that will come apart a little every time i move it? But i get told my labor isnt worth that. So the old growth wood gets chopped into tiny pieces for my fückyoü cabinets. Still made by people btw. I will dig up William morris and stroke his century dead disintegrated corpse dick til it soaks you in formaldehyde over this.
food is mostoy automated
Nope. You're just wrong about this. It's a seeious problem with these harsh border regimes; no farm labor. People will go hungry.
only have value as 'art'
No.
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Stupid meme, people have already did the artwork they have stole to train their "ai" machines, so basically they say to our face that we can steal and do whatever we want with it but you cannot
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Ps. Chat gpt DOES actively try to manipulate you.
No, it doesn't "try" to do anything. Don't antropomorphise it.
It's a short hand way of communicating. Like saying that a good search engine tries to find the most relevant sites. Or a streaming algorithm tries to recommend videos that you'll watch. It's not that we are saying these things are conscious or whatever. We're just describing what they do.
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Twenty years ago, some savvy engineers created the Rumba. It's a kind of annoying overpriced vacuum cleaner, but you can at least see the edges of a useful appliance.
Ten years ago, everyone was smelling their own farts about the advent of autonomous taxis. And, idk, we can at least pretend we're in the ballpark right now.
Today, it's noticeable how AI feels like a surrender on actual autonomous machines. Like, the idea of doing actual robotics is out the window. We're only going to spend our money on a solved problem - data processing - and see what we can wring out of it.
I do wonder what this will mean in another ten or twenty years.
Yeah, that robotics stuff is happening still (e.g. little robot mowers using machine vision for easier guidance).
But you are right that the prospect of advanced robotics gets a fraction of the attention that chatbots get. Trillions of bets on datacenter bound LLMs that can generate images, videos, and text but a relative pittance for advancements that would translate to physical labor..
I get that there's value, but the value proposition seems way out of whack.
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I don't think we killed them all, but there was certainly a lot less horse sex happening
wrote last edited by [email protected]We killed most of them. Butchered them for parts.
Why tge fuck would we have kept feeding something that didnt make line go up?
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Cooking can be an art too!
No one is making an art piece every meal.
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There is no right answer in art.
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Ps. Chat gpt DOES actively try to manipulate you.
No, it doesn't "try" to do anything. Don't antropomorphise it.
No your just not sharp. Chat gpt actively tries to copy your vernacular, To relate to you. Ask it next time.
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No one is making an art piece every meal.
well with that attitude you aren't eating at my place
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Comrade, why are you sitting and drawing? Are you crazy? The good times are over, it's time to go to a construction site under AI control!
Well, as for our human bosses, who knows, maybe they are just a myth?
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No one is making an art piece every meal.
No one is making an art piece every art either. See: the original dickbutt comic.
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love cleaning
Freaks
robot vacuum
That doesn't really work and spies on you. Still requires human intervention.
cooking
Not if you want it to taste good. You're thinking of restaurants.
some people get off on being pwnd
That's a serious problem on so many levels.
furniture
You think i wouldn't like some good handmade shit that will last firever instead of this ikea crap that will come apart a little every time i move it? But i get told my labor isnt worth that. So the old growth wood gets chopped into tiny pieces for my fückyoü cabinets. Still made by people btw. I will dig up William morris and stroke his century dead disintegrated corpse dick til it soaks you in formaldehyde over this.
food is mostoy automated
Nope. You're just wrong about this. It's a seeious problem with these harsh border regimes; no farm labor. People will go hungry.
only have value as 'art'
No.
Half of those "quotes" are either made up by you or you didn't quote enough context to even understands what you're saying.
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Half of those "quotes" are either made up by you or you didn't quote enough context to even understands what you're saying.
wrote last edited by [email protected]Not exact words. Concepts so you know what section or idea of yours im referring to. Have you tried to precisely copy paste on a fuck damn touch screen? Im sorry, but you're not worth that. I'm not worth that. Nobody is worth that.
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Not exact words. Concepts so you know what section or idea of yours im referring to. Have you tried to precisely copy paste on a fuck damn touch screen? Im sorry, but you're not worth that. I'm not worth that. Nobody is worth that.
Yeah, I do it all the time. It depends which app you're using I guess. It's not as easy as on a PC but it works fine for me on Android.
What the hell did you mean by "get off on getting pwnd"?
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Yeah, I do it all the time. It depends which app you're using I guess. It's not as easy as on a PC but it works fine for me on Android.
What the hell did you mean by "get off on getting pwnd"?
Letting corporatiobs own their computers.
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We killed most of them. Butchered them for parts.
Why tge fuck would we have kept feeding something that didnt make line go up?
You've already bought it, and the combustion engine didn't make them useless overnight.
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You've already bought it, and the combustion engine didn't make them useless overnight.
overnight
Who was arguing this?
Im saying they didnt get to go live happy horsey lives in neadows upstate.
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If you're doing it right, cooking is art.
