Does anyone remember Third Voice? You could graffiti any website and only people who had plugin installed could see it. Why isn't there a modern alternative?
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If it was "easy to police now with AI," then companies wouldn't still regularly have issues with all kinds of code injection on their websites, since literally any security vendor would have implemented bulletproof AI protection for it already.
An AI model designed for moderation could probably block some things, but it would be no better than traditional mechanisms employed by large organizations who's job it is to keep things secure, that still regularly fall victim to these kinds of vulnerabilities. Many of these organizations already use AI-powered tools to police their systems, and they know they're not anywhere close to even being a full replacement, let alone foolproof.
AI isn't perfect, and it’s definitely not a magic bullet for security or moderation. But that’s true for every system we use today.
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His identity was sort of an open secret in the community, he was a whimsical creative brilliant madman that was very well known, people were curious. Check out Why's Poignant guide to Ruby for a glimpse and some foxes
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The "say no to third voice" campaign website is hilarious. It's very obviously just cyber boomers who couldn't handle people talking about their "internet properties" outside their control
Cyber Trespassing We believe that Third Voice software cyber trespasses on the paid for property of commercial sites, private organizations, and private individuals.
Web pages are publicly accessible surfaces that are attached to privately owned domain names, located on server space that is rented or paid for.
According to Webster's Dictionary, vandalism is "willful or malicious destruction or defacement of public or private property ".
Defacement is defined as "to mar the external appearance of"
Third Voice notes are graffiti and vandalism.
Okay cyber boomer...
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Then Zuck who's incapable of
funemotions found out rage drives more engagement.
Too bad “funny” isn’t as profitable as “furious”.
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I think the answer to why there isn't a modern alternative is under the History tab on that Wiki page.
Fun idea though, I had never heard of that one.
wrote last edited by [email protected]I assume it's the same reason CS got rid of tags.
The smoke bomb clears and there's suddenly a giant vagina or gay sex filling your screen, and you have to stand up to block the screen because you were on the family computer in the living room.
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Too bad “funny” isn’t as profitable as “furious”.
Thing is, funny could be profitable "enough", but not for them
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Years ago https://web.hypothes.is/ used to let one annotate any website, but it appears now they are focused on only student/educational usage.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypothes.is
There was a plugin that allowed highlighting text on any web page, adding comments, and having threaded conversations based on groups.. it was kind of cool, too bad it didn't take off.
https://ucatt.arizona.edu/news/using-free-version-hypothesis
EDIT 1: I'll be darned, the Chrome extension still exists.. https://chromewebstore.google.com/detail/hypothesis-web-pdf-annota/bjfhmglciegochdpefhhlphglcehbmek
EDIT 2: I found my old account and the test annotations I'd done (and group definitions) still work! Guess this is still a working thing, worth exploring more.
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Did they ever ask why they got doxxed?
Edit: wooooosh
there's a more or less unspeakable amount of money riding on businesses' ability to control the narrative around themselves. this applies to small businesses and big ones alike, and a service like this would be a target for corporations all over the world. a dox isn't a large lift.
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I assume it's the same reason CS got rid of tags.
The smoke bomb clears and there's suddenly a giant vagina or gay sex filling your screen, and you have to stand up to block the screen because you were on the family computer in the living room.
Pretty sure I'd rage quit.
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These days that's more common on Lemmy.
Lemmy now definitely reminds me of the very early days of reddit, enjoying it immensely
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How would it work, technically, on a dynamic website? Any given url may load different content.
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AI isn't perfect, and it’s definitely not a magic bullet for security or moderation. But that’s true for every system we use today.
It's more than "AI isn't perfect", it's that AI isn't even good. Moderation, and even summaries, require more than predictions - they require understanding, which AI doesn't have. It's all hallucinations, and it's just that through sheer dumb luck and hoovering in so much ill-gotten data that sometimes the hallucinations happen to be correct.
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It's more than "AI isn't perfect", it's that AI isn't even good. Moderation, and even summaries, require more than predictions - they require understanding, which AI doesn't have. It's all hallucinations, and it's just that through sheer dumb luck and hoovering in so much ill-gotten data that sometimes the hallucinations happen to be correct.
Dismissing it all as “hallucinations” is like saying all cars are useless because they can crash. No tool is flawless but imperfect doesn’t mean worthless.
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I assume it's the same reason CS got rid of tags.
The smoke bomb clears and there's suddenly a giant vagina or gay sex filling your screen, and you have to stand up to block the screen because you were on the family computer in the living room.
Man it was so much fun to see the clever shit people had qs tags
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How would it work, technically, on a dynamic website? Any given url may load different content.
wrote last edited by [email protected]Good question, this is not an issue I dont think these days. people can correct like wiki
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Stumbleupon was kind of like that. Along with being an early type of link aggregator, any website would have its own comment section that was only visible to other stumbleupon users.
I used to enjoy it, and it looks like it may still be alive in some form. But I'm not brave enough to see how shitty it's become. I'll keep my rose tinted glasses on.
I loved stumbleupon, but with its moderation policy, it doesn't surprise me in the slightest that it went down hard.
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I loved stumbleupon, but with its moderation policy, it doesn't surprise me in the slightest that it went down hard.
What happened there? I must have wandered off before the drama happened.
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Dismissing it all as “hallucinations” is like saying all cars are useless because they can crash. No tool is flawless but imperfect doesn’t mean worthless.
Nice strawman, but not applicable. A car can mechanically fail, resulting in a crash or a human can operate it in such a manner as to cause a crash. It can't crash on its own and if driven and maintained correctly, won't crash.
An AI, on the other hand, can give answers but never actually "knows" if it's correct or true. Sometimes the answers will be correct because you get lucky but there's nothing in any current LLM out there that can tell fact from fiction. It's just based on how it's trained and what it's trained on, and even when taking from "real" sources, it can mix things up when combining sources. Suggest you read https://medium.com/analytics-matters/generative-ai-its-all-a-hallucination-6b8798445044
The only way a car would be like an AI is if every time you sat in the car, it occasionally drove you to the right place and you didn't mind the other 9 out of 10 times it drove you to the wrong place, drove you using the least efficient route, and/or occasionally drove across lawns and fields, and on sidewalks. Oh, and the car assembles itself from other people's cars and steals their gas.
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Years ago https://web.hypothes.is/ used to let one annotate any website, but it appears now they are focused on only student/educational usage.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypothes.is
There was a plugin that allowed highlighting text on any web page, adding comments, and having threaded conversations based on groups.. it was kind of cool, too bad it didn't take off.
https://ucatt.arizona.edu/news/using-free-version-hypothesis
EDIT 1: I'll be darned, the Chrome extension still exists.. https://chromewebstore.google.com/detail/hypothesis-web-pdf-annota/bjfhmglciegochdpefhhlphglcehbmek
EDIT 2: I found my old account and the test annotations I'd done (and group definitions) still work! Guess this is still a working thing, worth exploring more.
It still works and I still use it. Every so often I even run into other people's public comments in the wild.
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What happened there? I must have wandered off before the drama happened.
Oh, they just catered to Karens with automated bans, and no human review.
They also had a policy that if you didn't restrict your account to PG-level content, all of your submissions were considered X-rated.
