"ok, imagine a gun."
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While this is probably some bullshit from the horse drawn carriage era, what I'd like to say is that statistically speaking riding shotgun is the most dangerous seat in car crashes, so the saying still works
wrote last edited by [email protected]The shotgun Georg, who uses a small motorbike to jump inside 80,000 cars on highway and bites whoever is in the shotgun seat anually; is an outlier and their victims should be excluded from this survey.
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In the time of horse drawn carriages, wouldn't the rifle be a more common weapon?
Easier to aim a shotgun went bouncing around on the stagecoach, running from bandits.
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Yes, because we invariably import whatever bollocks the US says or does.
We don't even SAY bollocks in the US.
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lets not pretend that the US sprouted up out of nothing from nowhere and decide on a whim to slaughter native people. the American continent exists as it does today because of European colonial projects, and the brutal treatment of natives was official policy of the pope
wrote last edited by [email protected]Let's not pretend colonial europe is a thing (in 21st century) or that EU is ran by catholic church. For whatever reason, lemmy really loves shitting on countries based on what happened centuries ago. It's pretty much irrelevant and if that is your argument against EU in 21st century, then I genuinely see you as someone who simply wants to hate, but fails to find good enough reasons to do so. Same thing about US, South America and Middle East. Oh, let's not forget bloody (literally) Asia.
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Not many countries had to arm the person next to the coach driver to fight off natives defending their country against foreign invaders.
No, but many needed to protect those passengers from bandits and other assorted outlaws.
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Now I'd like to know why in France it's la place du Mort, the seat of the dead...
La place du mort, c'est pas le siège du milieu a l'arrière ?
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Yes, because we invariably import whatever bollocks the US says or does.
Yep, and we thank you for the word soccer too.
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No direct access, but “jump into the Elbe and wait” is still a valid strategy…
... And hope no German bridge crushes on you!
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lets not pretend that the US sprouted up out of nothing from nowhere and decide on a whim to slaughter native people. the American continent exists as it does today because of European colonial projects, and the brutal treatment of natives was official policy of the pope
No, no, no, this is all wrong. When we discuss immigration and the current situation in the US all Americans are European immigrants.
When we talk about the genocide of the natives Americans, it was done by Americans, Europeans had nothing to do with it.
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NL here. "Shotgun" is a concept, though mostly through Pop Culture Osmosis.
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We don't even SAY bollocks in the US.
I literally had to look it up because I didn't know what the word meant, that was just a couple of years ago. I'm a native speaker.
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Cloueuse pneumatique
Or pneumatic nailer
I don't think any of those things are referred to as a gun in French. Just essentially "stapler", "nailer", "gluer", ect
wrote last edited by [email protected]I might be biased by the question but I spontaneously thought of "pistolet à clous" as the most common term (which indeed translates to nail gun).
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First bit is true enough, but we call "shotgun" because that was the guy holding the coach gun for bandit defense. Wish I had a pic of mine, but they're basically a short double-barreled shotgun for warding off robbers and Indians. Coach guns are quickly and easily aimed, powerful at short range, "get the fuck off of me" guns.
The Wild West wasn't as wild as movies make it out, but you were on your fucking own. LOL, no 911. While you're driving the coach, best have a man whose job is looking around and blasting raiders.
tl;dr: Calling shotgun means you're taking the front passenger side in a (historically) defensive role.
wrote last edited by [email protected]Yes, thats part of the why but it's still odd culturally from the perspective of the rest of the world especially since what you're describing occurred 100+ years ago and the terminology has likely only persisted because of the US' gun obsession.
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The modern version would be "I call running the Spotify!"
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Years ago I read "shotgun wedding" and thought it was common to see a guy having to marry a girl he fucked while her father was there at the side with a rifle.
Capaz son asi andá a saber...
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No, but many needed to protect those passengers from bandits and other assorted outlaws.
Fun fact: Joseph Stalin first became known to Lenin when he organized the successful robbery of a bank stagecoach in Russia. The stagecoaches were heavily protected by armed men riding on the outside of the coach as well as riding horses alongside, but Stalin observed that they tended to relax their guard upon reaching a densely-populated city, on the assumption that revolutionaries would not be willing to injure or kill innocent bystanders.
This assumption was very wrong in Stalin's case. He had his people lob satchel bombs at the coach and riders after they reached the city, killing most of the guards as well as nearly 100 innocent bystanders in the vicinity. They made off with a huge amount of money, and Lenin congratulated Stalin although he had only planned the operation and not participated in it. The importance of delegation!
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Not many countries had to arm the person next to the coach driver to fight off natives defending their country against foreign invaders.
That's not what it was for. They fired a shotgun before turning onto a road. If two wagons came head to head on a crappy old western road it could cause hours of delay because the horses would have to be hitched to the back of one of the wagons a pull it all the way back to the crossroad.
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Fun fact: Joseph Stalin first became known to Lenin when he organized the successful robbery of a bank stagecoach in Russia. The stagecoaches were heavily protected by armed men riding on the outside of the coach as well as riding horses alongside, but Stalin observed that they tended to relax their guard upon reaching a densely-populated city, on the assumption that revolutionaries would not be willing to injure or kill innocent bystanders.
This assumption was very wrong in Stalin's case. He had his people lob satchel bombs at the coach and riders after they reached the city, killing most of the guards as well as nearly 100 innocent bystanders in the vicinity. They made off with a huge amount of money, and Lenin congratulated Stalin although he had only planned the operation and not participated in it. The importance of delegation!
wrote last edited by [email protected]Huh, who knew that violent bank robbers who indiscriminately kill bystanders would
do a bunch of genocide after their violent takeover complete with secret police and gulagsI mean create the best goverbmont in history, praise USSR or something. -
I think press works for Caulk and glue. Stapler is used already for the machine that sits on a desk as opposed to the hand held construction style. Finger pointers is certainly descriptive but when people do "finger guns" the thumb usually mimics the hammer action. What else are they miming? Am I so inundated with gun culture I was unable to think of another use for the thumb?
I think bottles were around before firearms but Staple, nail and Caulk guns were not.
They're both staplers - one's just manual and the other isn't.
Spray bottles did not exist before guns, no.
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It's still relevant. I always hand my passengers a pistol before disembarking.
