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    Time is one factor, but mainly to avoid unexciting and unnecessary dialogue.

    In real life we have a lot of conversations which are purely transactional and not very fun. Nobody needs to listen to characters on screen going back and forth like "See you tonight" "At the bar?" "Yeah, the bar, 6PM." "I've gotta drop the kids off at 6, can we do 7...?" - It's boring, and it doesn't advance the story.

    Just cut the conversation short. The audience will quicky see the when and where immediately for themselves when the scene changes to the bar and the guy walks in, "Sorry I'm late, had to drop off the kids."

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    it's those asides that make the film feel alive though. fleshed out. can't be the entire dialogue, but if your film is direct A→B→C ect ect ect the characters feel one dimensional.

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      it's those asides that make the film feel alive though. fleshed out. can't be the entire dialogue, but if your film is direct A→B→C ect ect ect the characters feel one dimensional.

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      Ironically a common writing technique is B->C dialog.

      Basically cutting out the preamble and post dialog. Most times even in my writing I include “Hello” since that would stand out, but generally get right to the point.

      You see this a lot in movies too, if done well it blends in since your scene is focusing on the action and not rambling on.

      There are exceptions (teens talking may include a “no you hang up” trope for comedic effect) but that’s used sparingly.

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      • F [email protected]

        I also leave for work as soon as my breakfast hits the table.

        And I never say goodbye on the phone.

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        The worst part about the first one is that they never bring up the breakfast again and they just make something else for dinner. Like they just threw away hundreds of dollars of food and had no problem with it???

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        • jackbydev@programming.devJ [email protected]

          It hits different when working remote. Just kick them out of the call lol

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          Hey Janet, can you hold back for a minute after the call? Thanks for coming everyone, have a great day.

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            Hey Janet, can you hold back for a minute after the call? Thanks for coming everyone, have a great day.

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            Oof, Janet is staying after the class.

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            • P [email protected]

              I know of you. When you end a phone conversation you don't say "goodbye" you just hang up on people after you've expressed your last thought.

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              I always though this was how you did it in the USA?!!

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                OK let's hangout later.

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                • T [email protected]

                  Time is one factor, but mainly to avoid unexciting and unnecessary dialogue.

                  In real life we have a lot of conversations which are purely transactional and not very fun. Nobody needs to listen to characters on screen going back and forth like "See you tonight" "At the bar?" "Yeah, the bar, 6PM." "I've gotta drop the kids off at 6, can we do 7...?" - It's boring, and it doesn't advance the story.

                  Just cut the conversation short. The audience will quicky see the when and where immediately for themselves when the scene changes to the bar and the guy walks in, "Sorry I'm late, had to drop off the kids."

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                  Fr this. Like do you people really want to have to sit through every ounce of tedium in your media? Let the writers have their shorthands, please.

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                    I'm also gonna stand up right now and storm out without touching my dinner.

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                    • S [email protected]

                      The man always said, "Write what you know." And boy does he!

                      He's gets off the rails writing stuff he's not familiar with. Guns and science fiction come to mind, just painfully ignorant, so off base it take me out for a minute.

                      Not the worst example, but it comes to mind:

                      Retired cop is going into a situation where he's very likely to encounter violence. He's got a 9mm Glock, standard police firearm, and an old six shooter. He thinks about it a moment and picks the revolver. Excuse me say what? Why would a cop ditch his own service weapon in favor of an old revolver?!

                      He sometimes makes up guns that do not exist. As with anything, the man has all the pull in the world to run his ideas by experts. Sometimes I think, this is outside his experience and he never asked and no one corrected him? I so want to call him up, "Look my man, you're my favorite all-time author. Think you could run the science fiction and gun stuff by me for a smell test?"

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                      Maybe didn’t want to leave shell casings behind?

                      Other than that, I got nothing

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                        It's one of those annoying tropes common to a particular type of American TV show. Another annoying one is when someone says "I can explain" then doesn't.

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                        • heythisisnttheymca@lemmy.worldH [email protected]

                          i love phatic expressions

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                          TIL phatic. nice!

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