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Expand North! So much room up there.

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  • C [email protected]

    Yeah, and that whole TransCanada highway being a massive choke point

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    Wait, are you implying it can't be a choke point as an East-West route? Or implying it is a choke point for Edmonton? Or am I missing the point?

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    • swedneck@discuss.tchncs.deS [email protected]

      trains are the most reliable mode of transport in winter conditions, the fact that they're so monstrously heavy and have tiny points of contact with the rails means they will simply squeeze out snow and crush ice, no plowing needed.

      go ahead and try to drive a car through 20cm of slushy snow, it ain't happening.

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      You're right, except in British Columbia where all the most expensive highways were built. Not better, but affordable because Vancouver, Victoria and Kelowna dgaf about the rest of the province and outnumber everywhere else. If we didn't have all these tourist-focused roads, they'd have still torn up the rails and left us to drown.

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        It's because the rest is all degens from upcountry.

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        Fuckin' hate degens.

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        • T [email protected]

          Wait, are you implying it can't be a choke point as an East-West route? Or implying it is a choke point for Edmonton? Or am I missing the point?

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          I was just saying that during a hypothetical invasion by Trump it would be a choke point

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          • B [email protected]

            Who are you running and hiding from?

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            The Canada goose.

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              Huh so that's what the 401 looks like

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                Peggers represent

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                Jesus Christ!!!

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                  It’s not my fault my parents had me in the lower mainland, what am I gonna do, move north?

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                  • merc@sh.itjust.worksM [email protected]

                    Ooh, wheat! Great. What about fruits? They're important for a balanced diet.

                    It turns out that Canada imports 50% of its vegetables and 75% of its fruit.

                    But do go on, tell me how Canada's climate isn't limiting in what it can produce domestically.

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                    how much I hate most Canadians and their whiny, weak, entitled, arrogant, half clever bullshit.

                    oh look it's you.

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                      Winnipeg has almost a million people!!

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                      And the spots I left there have like 35 million

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                      • merc@sh.itjust.worksM [email protected]

                        The video says that there were more than 500,000 bike share trips in Toronto in the winter months. Let's be conservative and say that "the winter months" are just December, January and February. The reality is that there's ice on the ground until May pretty often, but let's just pretend it's 500,000 trips in 3 months to make the numbers seem as big as possible.

                        Is that big? Not really, 500,000 trips in 3 months is 167,000 trips per month. Meanwhile in the summer it's 1 million trips per month. So, cycling drops by a factor of at least 6 in the winter. That's massive.

                        And yes, I've watched that Not Just Bikes video. It makes the point that in order for people to bike in the winter, you need massive infrastructure that Canada refuses to spend on. The city in question in the video, Oulu, makes it a priority to clear the bike routes within 3 hours of a 2 cm snowfall. Theoretically could that be done in every rich city in the world? Sure. Is it realistic it will ever happen anywhere in Canada? Doubtful.

                        I stand by what I said, "winter is a major factor". Do you have any idea how much it would cost to commit to clearing all the bike routes within 3 hours of a 2 cm snowfall? You could argue that the cost is worth it, and that the cost is smaller than doing similar things for cars, but it remains a major factor.

                        Besides, it wouldn't even make sense to have snow clearing like Oulu unless they first built a dedicated bike network for the city. There's no point in just clearing the "bike lanes" which are just a tiny strip of pavement next to the gutter.

                        Canadian cities aren't doing enough to build mass transit and bike lanes. But, even if they did, the weather sucks in the winter. And Oulu, is colder than Toronto. But it's slightly warmer than Ottawa and Montreal, and significantly warmer than Winnipeg, Edmonton and Calgary. So, even if you replicated all the bike lanes from Oulu, committed to clearing the snow as quickly as they do in Oulu and made cars and fuel as expensive as they are in Europe, Canada would probably have nowhere near the number of winter bikers as Oulu per capita. Canada is much colder, cities are designed around cars, and people have "car brain".

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                        Snow plows for roads exist and often just run and run and run to keep roads open.

                        This is the counter to your whole point my guy.

                        It’s will not ability

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                        • zagorath@aussie.zoneZ [email protected]

                          85% of Canadians live within 100 miles of the American border. And yous claim you don't want to be part of them.

                          *(runs and hides)*

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                          Have you seen Canadians during war? I'll definitely pass on that, thanks.

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                            America isn't any better. Depending on what statistic you are looking at, 40% to 75% of all Americans live within 100 miles of the border

                            Not so fun fact: if American border patrol agents stop you within the 100 mile zone, they can ignore parts of the fourth amendment and perform what would normally be illegal search and seizure

                            100 Mile Zone

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                            Bold of you to think any part of the Constitution actually applies down here.

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                              Accurate.

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                                It’s not my fault my parents had me in the lower mainland, what am I gonna do, move north?

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                                Yes, but it’s on provincial governments to build new cities north with tax money from the south.

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                                • tuuktuuk@sopuli.xyzT [email protected]

                                  If I understand correctly based on a map and Wikipedia, the concept of "a lot of people" does not exist in North Dakota, though.

                                  I had never heard of the city of Bismarck, their state capital of more than 70 thousand inhabitants, a bit over 10% of the state's population. But, now I do. I also had not thought there can be a state capital with that little population. (And then this made me curious and I learned that in Germany the smallest state capital is Schwerin, in the state of Mecklenburg-Vorpommern, and it has about 98 000 inhabitants in a state of 1½ million inhabitants.)

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                                  Trenton, NJ, the most densely populated state in America, only has 91k. This represents only 1% of the population, versus 10 in ND. I'm not sure how it is around the country, but of the capitals of NJ, NY, PA, none are amongst the most populated cities in the states. And I don't really care about the rest of the states (and I like Mass, but it doesn't fit my example), so that's that.

                                  You've certainly piqued my interest in regard to populations of capitals v. the states they represent.

                                  EDIT: And the first search result on the Google is from a Reddit post from seven years ago, listing 17 states in the US where the capitals are the most populated cities. With a map, because who doesn't like pictures?

                                  EDIT 2: I'll just take this opportunity to spout some nonsense I like to spout: NYC (at least Manhattan, but maybe even out to Montauk, but of course excluding garbage ass Staten Island) and Philadelphia should be part of NJ, as they have more in common with NJ than they do their own states. Upstate NY and pretty much the entirety of PA are rural hick people. And sure there's some exclusions, Pittsburgh, the finger lakes, Rochester, but for the most part, rural hick people.

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                                    I don’t get it. The border is north of the UP.

                                    Why do the straights count?

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                                    Because they want more jurisdiction and got it.

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                                      how much I hate most Canadians and their whiny, weak, entitled, arrogant, half clever bullshit.

                                      oh look it's you.

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                                      Give it a rest dude, go touch some grass.

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                                      • P [email protected]

                                        Snow plows for roads exist and often just run and run and run to keep roads open.

                                        This is the counter to your whole point my guy.

                                        It’s will not ability

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                                        Snow plows for roads exist and often just run and run and run to keep roads open.

                                        Which is very expensive, but necessary because of the shitty climate. What's your point?

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                                          LOL! I believe the Quebecois along the St. Lawrence should be included.

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