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  • catlikelemming@lemmy.blahaj.zoneC [email protected]

    Over the last one or two years I feel like Rust haters have gotten even louder than the Rust evangelists. For every person who declares "Rewrite it in Rust!" I see two or three people saying how they hate Rust or how pointless it is and so on.

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    I am convinced Rust haters are simply refusing to learn something new, consciously or not.

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      Needs that plucky mrust project holding up rust

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        I like how this takes familiarity with the original xkcd comic as a given.

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        If not, you're one of the lucky 10000.

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          Which 1%?

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          The 1% that allows Linux to run on the New macbooks if i understand asahi Linux correctly

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          • thebardingreen@lemmy.starlightkel.xyzT [email protected]

            I'm working with some Rust right now that is 100% a big mess..

            It's consistently either the Rust or the Docker components that fail to build. In fairness, it's a VERY big and complex application.

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            If your setup doesn't make it easier for you, choose a different setup.

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              Haskell is somewhere far away off screen

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              And Eiffel is in a different plane of existence entirely

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                Rust is fearlessly upholding the whole thing even without touching it. Incredible!

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                Gotta keep a distance to that dirty unsafe code!

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                • teolan@lemmy.worldT [email protected]

                  Here, FTFY:

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                  Better meme

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                  • thebardingreen@lemmy.starlightkel.xyzT [email protected]

                    I'm working with some Rust right now that is 100% a big mess..

                    It's consistently either the Rust or the Docker components that fail to build. In fairness, it's a VERY big and complex application.

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                    We had to use Nix to build Rust services and make containers of them. It works pretty well, except with Nix 2.29 and 2.30 where it is broken for some reason

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                      Be careful, a Rust Dev will accuse you of FUDposting! They might even try to collect evidence on you for being "a terrible person", then sending their followers after you, then individually contact all your publicly known friends about it!

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                        Give it time. Once Fortran was king.

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                        You're still using BLAS if you really need high-performing matrix calculations tho'

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                        • catlikelemming@lemmy.blahaj.zoneC [email protected]

                          Over the last one or two years I feel like Rust haters have gotten even louder than the Rust evangelists. For every person who declares "Rewrite it in Rust!" I see two or three people saying how they hate Rust or how pointless it is and so on.

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                          Yeah, this whole meme just looks like ‘I hate Rust and don't want it anywhere’

                          Of course, there is importance in trying it everywhere, because it shows where the language and ecosystem lacks and can evolve; but beside that, I think adoption by big companies wouldn't happen if it wasn't any good as some want to believe

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                            The 1% that allows Linux to run on the New macbooks if i understand asahi Linux correctly

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                            So drivers, I assume.

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                              Rust is actually awesome in many ways. No always the right solution, but nice to have in your toolbox.

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                                Still waiting on that rust-based Nvidia driver. I assume it will take a few years tho.

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                                  not a big fan of rust personally. I think it would be much smarter to bring borrow checking to C through annotations. That way we would not have to rewrite the whole world

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                                    I get the meme (though why was this single unstable point - imagemagick in the original xkcd - removed? To make the left side seem more stable clmpared to the original idea?), it might be trueish atm.
                                    But with rust I feel that a lot of projects that are rewritten in rust are quicker arriving at a "finished" (or almost finished) state where they are more or less just tools being used without much discussion anymore. I guess a lot of commonly used tools already use Rust in some way, but i rarely is an issue which makes this discussion-worthy or generates enough conflict in order to raise awareness outside.

                                    I have a hunch that open-source rust-devopment is less of a hassle as a lot of discussion about code or the quality therof is simply avoided by a stricter compiler. If the code committed compiles with rustc there's less possibility of it breaking other things in the codebase or containing hidden dangers that need to be discussed. Overall less friction, less overhead and distruction from the actual coding.

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                                      Where is Visual Basic in this diagram? Does nobody enhance blurry license plate pics any more?

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                                        So drivers, I assume.

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                                        Oh yeah, the current rust work is about giving drivers access to the core abstractions of the kernel

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                                          just because they are accepting of people based on gender identity doesn't mean toxicity cannot exist.

                                          terfs are a great example of that.

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                                          Sure, but I'm saying in general. I don't know why you're so convinced of your position from the one experience you had.

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