We’re planning a distant sequel where they all race go-karts together
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By late March 1981, Nintendo was also pursuing a license to make a game based on the Popeye comic strip, tentatively titled Popeye's Beer Barrel Attack Game. In this iteration of the game, the player, as Popeye, would attempt to rescue Olive Oyl from Bluto in a similar manner to the final game, with the first level being completed by having the player use a jack to bend the top girder upwards, causing the barrels to roll back towards Bluto. After experiencing difficulty portraying the Popeye characters within the limits of the game hardware, Nintendo elected to replace Bluto with a newly created gorilla character before ultimately deciding to make the rest of the game's cast original. Miyamoto came up with many characters and plot concepts, but he settled on a love triangle between a gorilla, a carpenter with a large hammer, and a girlfriend, mirroring the original rivalry between Bluto and Popeye for Olive Oyl. The ape that had originally replaced Bluto would evolve into the titular Donkey Kong, which Miyamoto said was "nothing too evil or repulsive." He would be the pet of the main character, "a funny, hang-loose kind of guy."
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Yep, it's a poor translation of essentially "stubborn ape"
I want to live in the timeline where we got Ass Kong though.
I'm reading that Shigeru Miyamoto purposefully named it "Donkey Kong" in English to imply "stubborn ape" and that it was not a mistranslation
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Yep, it's a poor translation of essentially "stubborn ape"
I want to live in the timeline where we got Ass Kong though.
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I've never made the connection between the Donkey name in Donkey Kong and donkey the animal. I feel a bit silly
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Yep, it's a poor translation of essentially "stubborn ape"
I want to live in the timeline where we got Ass Kong though.
It's not even a poor translation...
King Kong already existed, so they made him a "Kong" and he's stubborn so he's a donkey. 100% logical just more British English than American English.
I want to live in the timeline where we got Ass Kong though
Be the change you want to see in the world
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By late March 1981, Nintendo was also pursuing a license to make a game based on the Popeye comic strip, tentatively titled Popeye's Beer Barrel Attack Game. In this iteration of the game, the player, as Popeye, would attempt to rescue Olive Oyl from Bluto in a similar manner to the final game, with the first level being completed by having the player use a jack to bend the top girder upwards, causing the barrels to roll back towards Bluto. After experiencing difficulty portraying the Popeye characters within the limits of the game hardware, Nintendo elected to replace Bluto with a newly created gorilla character before ultimately deciding to make the rest of the game's cast original. Miyamoto came up with many characters and plot concepts, but he settled on a love triangle between a gorilla, a carpenter with a large hammer, and a girlfriend, mirroring the original rivalry between Bluto and Popeye for Olive Oyl. The ape that had originally replaced Bluto would evolve into the titular Donkey Kong, which Miyamoto said was "nothing too evil or repulsive." He would be the pet of the main character, "a funny, hang-loose kind of guy."
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One of those "something new every day" moments right here
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I'm reading that Shigeru Miyamoto purposefully named it "Donkey Kong" in English to imply "stubborn ape" and that it was not a mistranslation
Oh not a mis translation at all, just one that the audience didn't really understand at the time, I don't think. At least I know I didn't, until 20 years later when I read this somewhere on the internet. It makes sense once you know, but we all just kind of took the name at face value in the 80's and 90's and didn't really question it. "Kong" was recognizable enough but the "Donkey" part definitely just slid right off me.
To be honest I'm not sure what I would have called him instead to convey the same idea better, so fair enough, Mr. Miyamoto.
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It's not even a poor translation...
King Kong already existed, so they made him a "Kong" and he's stubborn so he's a donkey. 100% logical just more British English than American English.
I want to live in the timeline where we got Ass Kong though
Be the change you want to see in the world
inventing dimensional travel just to go to the Ass Kong reality
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By late March 1981, Nintendo was also pursuing a license to make a game based on the Popeye comic strip, tentatively titled Popeye's Beer Barrel Attack Game. In this iteration of the game, the player, as Popeye, would attempt to rescue Olive Oyl from Bluto in a similar manner to the final game, with the first level being completed by having the player use a jack to bend the top girder upwards, causing the barrels to roll back towards Bluto. After experiencing difficulty portraying the Popeye characters within the limits of the game hardware, Nintendo elected to replace Bluto with a newly created gorilla character before ultimately deciding to make the rest of the game's cast original. Miyamoto came up with many characters and plot concepts, but he settled on a love triangle between a gorilla, a carpenter with a large hammer, and a girlfriend, mirroring the original rivalry between Bluto and Popeye for Olive Oyl. The ape that had originally replaced Bluto would evolve into the titular Donkey Kong, which Miyamoto said was "nothing too evil or repulsive." He would be the pet of the main character, "a funny, hang-loose kind of guy."
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Funny this about this, if they had stuck with the Popeye IP this game would likely be forgotten now. Instead they created two of the most indelible characters in videogame history.
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By late March 1981, Nintendo was also pursuing a license to make a game based on the Popeye comic strip, tentatively titled Popeye's Beer Barrel Attack Game. In this iteration of the game, the player, as Popeye, would attempt to rescue Olive Oyl from Bluto in a similar manner to the final game, with the first level being completed by having the player use a jack to bend the top girder upwards, causing the barrels to roll back towards Bluto. After experiencing difficulty portraying the Popeye characters within the limits of the game hardware, Nintendo elected to replace Bluto with a newly created gorilla character before ultimately deciding to make the rest of the game's cast original. Miyamoto came up with many characters and plot concepts, but he settled on a love triangle between a gorilla, a carpenter with a large hammer, and a girlfriend, mirroring the original rivalry between Bluto and Popeye for Olive Oyl. The ape that had originally replaced Bluto would evolve into the titular Donkey Kong, which Miyamoto said was "nothing too evil or repulsive." He would be the pet of the main character, "a funny, hang-loose kind of guy."
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Ok, but when did the shrooms come in?
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Funny this about this, if they had stuck with the Popeye IP this game would likely be forgotten now. Instead they created two of the most indelible characters in videogame history.
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Ok, but when did the shrooms come in?
Super Mushrooms were originally believed to have been inspired by the cake that Alice eats in Alice's Adventures in Wonderland that makes her grow after having been shrunk by a potion. However, Shigeru Miyamoto later corrected himself, saying that this was a misunderstanding; the mushrooms were actually inspired by the concept of mushrooms being associated with magical worlds in general, like the wonderland of Alice's Adventures in Wonderland and the Mushroom Kingdom.
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At the risk of being the common sense party pooper, I'm pretty sure that if somebody went "it's King Kong and you're some guy trying to rescue the girl while the gorilla throws garbage at you" I would have gotten it pretty quickly.
I mean, I may have asked if we could have a level where we fire at the gorilla from a plane, but lawyers and programmers would probably have shot that down pretty quickly, so hammering barrels it is.
If one wants to be facetious I bet it was weirder to go "we lost the Popeye license" and get back "what if Bluto was King Kong and you are just some guy with a moustache", but honestly, reskins like that were a dime a dozen even then.
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*carpenter
He wasn't a plumber until Mario Brothers.
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Oh not a mis translation at all, just one that the audience didn't really understand at the time, I don't think. At least I know I didn't, until 20 years later when I read this somewhere on the internet. It makes sense once you know, but we all just kind of took the name at face value in the 80's and 90's and didn't really question it. "Kong" was recognizable enough but the "Donkey" part definitely just slid right off me.
To be honest I'm not sure what I would have called him instead to convey the same idea better, so fair enough, Mr. Miyamoto.
I certainly didn't understand it at the time. There was also a clone of Donkey Kong at the time named Crazy Kong, and as that name made more sense I thought that was the original at the time
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um ackshually jumpman was a carpenter, not a plumber
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*carpenter
He wasn't a plumber until Mario Brothers.
I first met them as factory workers trying to make cakes on the cake factory line.
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By late March 1981, Nintendo was also pursuing a license to make a game based on the Popeye comic strip, tentatively titled Popeye's Beer Barrel Attack Game. In this iteration of the game, the player, as Popeye, would attempt to rescue Olive Oyl from Bluto in a similar manner to the final game, with the first level being completed by having the player use a jack to bend the top girder upwards, causing the barrels to roll back towards Bluto. After experiencing difficulty portraying the Popeye characters within the limits of the game hardware, Nintendo elected to replace Bluto with a newly created gorilla character before ultimately deciding to make the rest of the game's cast original. Miyamoto came up with many characters and plot concepts, but he settled on a love triangle between a gorilla, a carpenter with a large hammer, and a girlfriend, mirroring the original rivalry between Bluto and Popeye for Olive Oyl. The ape that had originally replaced Bluto would evolve into the titular Donkey Kong, which Miyamoto said was "nothing too evil or repulsive." He would be the pet of the main character, "a funny, hang-loose kind of guy."
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The end result is also vaguely similar to King Kong with the woman on the skyscraper, which I assume is the source of the Donkey Kong name.
