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AI is exactly as bad as mechanised weaving looms.
wrote last edited by [email protected]i’m pro-AI (with huuuuge caveats) but i disagree with this… AI reduces certain jobs in a similar way, but it also enables large scale manipulation and fucks with our thought processes on a large scale
i’d say it’s like if a mechanised weaving loom also invented the concept of disinformation and propaganda
.. but also, mechanised weaving loom effected a single industry: modern ML has the potential to effect the large majority of people: it’s on a different scale than the disruption of the textile industry
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Rather, our problem is that we live in a world where the strongest will survive, and the strongest does not mean the smart... So alas we will always be in complete shit until we disappear.
That's a pathetic, defeatist world view. Yeah, we're victims of our circumstances, but we can make the world a better place than what we were raised in.
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I’m sure AI would be great if we actually had it. LLMs are not AI.
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You'd also get a ton of upvotes for saying "Trump bad", but you wouldn't be wrong. Shit is just shit.
It would still be a performative post though.
What we need is a circlejerk@ community
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This same “automatic BS” is helping discover life-saving drugs, diagnosing cancers earlier than some doctors
Not the same kind of AI. At all. Generative AI vendors love this motte-and-bailey.
That's not a motte-and-bailey.
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That's a pathetic, defeatist world view. Yeah, we're victims of our circumstances, but we can make the world a better place than what we were raised in.
Well, you can believe that there is a chance, but there is none. It can only be created with sweat and blood. There are no easy ways, you know, and sometimes there are none at all, and sometimes even creating one seems like a miracle.
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Ahh so are you going to acknowledge the privacy invasion and brain rotting cause by Ai or are you just going to focus on dismissing the environmental concerns? Cause I linked more than just the environmental impacts.
Uh dismissing that concern seems like valid point? Do people have to comprehensively discredit the whole list to reply?
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I'd welcome actual AI. What is peddled everyday as "AI" is just marketing bullshit. There's no intelligence in it. Language shapes perception and we should take those words back and use them according to their original and inherent meaning. LLMs are not AI. Stable diffusion is not AI. Neural networks trained for a singular task are not AI.
Define "intelligence"
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That's a pathetic, defeatist world view. Yeah, we're victims of our circumstances, but we can make the world a better place than what we were raised in.
You can try, and you should try. But some handful of generations ago, some assholes were in the right place at the right time and struck it rich. The ones that figured out generational wealth ended up with a disproportionate amount of power. The formula to use money to make more money was handed down, coddled, and protected to keep the rich and powerful in power. Even 100 Luigi's wouldn't even make the tiniest dent in the oligarch pyramid as others will just swoop in and consume their part.
Any lifelong pursuit you have to make the world a better place than you were raised in will be wiped out with a scribble of black Sharpie on Ministry of Truth letterhead.
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I’m sure AI would be great if we actually had it. LLMs are not AI.
They factually are. ML is AI. I think you mean AGI maybe?
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The problem isn't AI. The problem is Capitalism.
The problem is always Capitalism.
AI, Climate Change, rising fascism, all our problems are because of capitalism.
Wrong.
The problem are humans, the same things that happen under capitalism can (and would) happen under any other system because humans are the ones who make these things happen or allow them to happen. -
Wrong.
The problem are humans, the same things that happen under capitalism can (and would) happen under any other system because humans are the ones who make these things happen or allow them to happen.Can, would... and did. The list of environmental disasters in the Soviet is long and intense.
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AI BAD, TRUMP BAD, CLIMATE CHANGE BAD, GENOCIDE BAD, CAPITALISM BAD, LIBERALS BAD, FASCISTS BAD, NAZIS BAD, INCELS BAD, CEOs BAD, LANDLORDS BAD, VIOLENCE BAD, CHILD SEX TRAFFICKING BAD.
Now where are my upvotes?
You forgot CEOs and landlords.
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A hammer doesn't consume exorbitant amounts of power and water.
Neither does an algorithm.
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There is a distinction between video game AI and computer science AI. People know that video game AI isn't really AI. How LLM is marketed by using terms like "super intelligence" is deception.
Don't you dare try to tell someone that though, they will be personally offended for some reason.
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"Video games are dangerous."
So is rock music! And if you inject one Marijuana you can die!
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Neither does an algorithm.
No, it actually does.
https://news.mit.edu/2025/explained-generative-ai-environmental-impact-0117
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AI is bad and people who use it should feel bad.
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They factually are. ML is AI. I think you mean AGI maybe?
GTFO with your nuanced and engaged understanding. This is Lemmy.
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If you ever take a flight for holiday, or even drive long distance and cry about AI being bad for the environment then you're a hypocrite.
Same goes for if you eat beef, or having a really powerful gaming rig that you use a lot.
There are plenty of valid reasons AI is bad, but the argument for the environment seems weak, and most people using it are probably hypocrites. It's barely a drop in the bucket compared to other things
You're getting downvoted for speaking the truth to an echo chamber my guy.
