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  • roflmasterbigpimp@lemmy.worldR [email protected]

    Vegans don't eat Honey? Huh.

    Makes sense when you think about it, tho.

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    All that honeybee suffering...

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      All that honeybee suffering...

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      In Europe without industrial honey bees we would not have apples, crops amd stuff because they are almost solely responsible for the pollination.

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      • v4ld1z@lemmy.zipV [email protected]

        Used to hate Arizona quite a bit because it felt super bougie and expensive for what's essentially just a regular ice tea. Developed a taste for it over the years and like it quite a bit nowadays because it's partly sweetened with stevia which makes it taste very pleasantly. Quite unfortunate that most of the flavours sold here aren't vegan because they insist on 0,1% of honey in the ingredients

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        Why the fuck are vegans not eating honey? It's nectar?

        Please don't tell me it's to do with exploitation of insects.

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          In Europe without industrial honey bees we would not have apples, crops amd stuff because they are almost solely responsible for the pollination.

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          What's an industrial honeybee? In my head I have bees buzzing around wearing tiny hi-vis vests and helmets.

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            Why the fuck are vegans not eating honey? It's nectar?

            Please don't tell me it's to do with exploitation of insects.

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            It has to do with the exploitation of insects.

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              What's an industrial honeybee? In my head I have bees buzzing around wearing tiny hi-vis vests and helmets.

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              They listen to Nine Inch Nails and work in factories.

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              • roflmasterbigpimp@lemmy.worldR [email protected]

                But have you thought about the shareholders?

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                I have, and on a related note, I also think of guillotines.

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                • v4ld1z@lemmy.zipV [email protected]

                  Used to hate Arizona quite a bit because it felt super bougie and expensive for what's essentially just a regular ice tea. Developed a taste for it over the years and like it quite a bit nowadays because it's partly sweetened with stevia which makes it taste very pleasantly. Quite unfortunate that most of the flavours sold here aren't vegan because they insist on 0,1% of honey in the ingredients

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                  Stevia can die in a fire. Some people can limit their sugar intake to healthy levels. Make something either diet or not. I dislike the taste of all artificial sweeteners, and its in regular too now with most drinks. With artificial sweeteners (but maybe not stevia) wrecking your gut biome and other problems, they've just added something unhealthy to drinks. A drink that would normally be OK to drink once in a while.

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                    All that honeybee suffering...

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                    It's a lack of human imagination to think that animals without eyebrows can't suffer.

                    There are parts of (industrial) beekeeping that aren't ethical. It's up to people themselves to decide if they are comfortable with that.

                    For example outcompeting other native pollinators, culling entire hives by drowning or gassing is a thing, clipping the wings of the queen to prevent swarming, increased risk of disease due to lower nutritional value of sugar water

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                      In Europe without industrial honey bees we would not have apples, crops amd stuff because they are almost solely responsible for the pollination.

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                      Fun stuff, but you forgot that we reduced wild pollinator population by around 70%? Mainly due to the monoculture agriculture, and pesticide usage? The thing they are now needed for?

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                        Why the fuck are vegans not eating honey? It's nectar?

                        Please don't tell me it's to do with exploitation of insects.

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                        Why are you so aggressive in asking something? Do you expect people to help you like that?

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                          What's an industrial honeybee? In my head I have bees buzzing around wearing tiny hi-vis vests and helmets.

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                          So basically all honey you buy is made by the European honey bee, which is known for making lots of honey. Beekeepers place them in boxes and collect the honey. And basically once you have more than 20 hives you are commercially viable and that is what I mean with industrial

                          Asia has a different kind of bee that Beekeepers breed, but almost all of the rest of the world is using the same species.

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                            Why the fuck are vegans not eating honey? It's nectar?

                            Please don't tell me it's to do with exploitation of insects.

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                            Honeybees destroy ecosystems because they're more efficient at pollination than wild bees are, so there's an ecological nuance to abstaining from honey. Apart from that, there's the ethical component of taking away food that the bees produce for themselves that's not ours for the taking.

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                              Stevia can die in a fire. Some people can limit their sugar intake to healthy levels. Make something either diet or not. I dislike the taste of all artificial sweeteners, and its in regular too now with most drinks. With artificial sweeteners (but maybe not stevia) wrecking your gut biome and other problems, they've just added something unhealthy to drinks. A drink that would normally be OK to drink once in a while.

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                              I'm not an expert on artificial sweeteners, but as far as I know, they're to be consumed in moderate amounts just like sugars are. And from what I've heard, stevia is among the better sweeteners compared to something like aspartame or maybe even sucralose. The mixing of sugar and a sweetener is not ideal, I think that's true.

                              I'll gladly be proven otherwise - don't know enough about them tbh

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                                Today i learned that in the us arizona tea is extremely good and cheap, while here in europe you can only get it imported so its pretty expensive...

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                                Arizona Ice Tea isn't good tea though?

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                                  Why are they using anything imported anyways?

                                  Ah yes, let me just buy local from all of the American tea farms, American bauxite mines, and American aluminum refineries. Oh wait, America doesn’t actually produce meaningful amounts of any of those resources. Pretty much the only thing Arizona would reasonably be able to buy domestically is the sugar.

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                                  And most US sugar is foreign sourced.

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                                    Fun stuff, but you forgot that we reduced wild pollinator population by around 70%? Mainly due to the monoculture agriculture, and pesticide usage? The thing they are now needed for?

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                                    Yeah well the reason for the reduced species diversity is the human. I thought this was obvious.

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                                      Why the fuck are vegans not eating honey? It's nectar?

                                      Please don't tell me it's to do with exploitation of insects.

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                                      These fucking vegans care for insects now? That makes me so mad.

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                                        Also mediocre tasting sugar water

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                                        It's so gross. People are always praising them for being so cheap, when it's quite literally just sugar water that tastes like is was bottled 10 years ago

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                                          Why the fuck are vegans not eating honey? It's nectar?

                                          Please don't tell me it's to do with exploitation of insects.

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                                          God forbid someone have empathy for living creatures.

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