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    "OH NO, NOT PEOPLE WHO AREN'T MY SKIN COLOR GAINING EQUAL RIGHTS AS ME!"

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      I want to live in a world where organized religion is no more šŸ˜”

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        I want to live in a world where organized religion is no more šŸ˜”

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        Looks pretty disorganized to me as is.

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          "OH NO, NOT PEOPLE WHO AREN'T MY SKIN COLOR GAINING EQUAL RIGHTS AS ME!"

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          They're afraid of being treated the same way they treat others

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            White Christians spreading the love in Uganda: "God wants you to stone homosexuals to death"

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            Unfortunately Ugandans view lgbt stuff as neo colonialism. Most Africans are rather religious and traditional. If not Christian they are Muslims; both of which are none native to Africa and homophobic. Its hard to see how they will change their minds unless they come to the conclusion on their own.

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            • internetcitizen2@lemmy.worldI [email protected]

              Unfortunately Ugandans view lgbt stuff as neo colonialism. Most Africans are rather religious and traditional. If not Christian they are Muslims; both of which are none native to Africa and homophobic. Its hard to see how they will change their minds unless they come to the conclusion on their own.

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              I wonder if the West having this new wave of anti-queer reaction will short-circuit this cycle. Hard to claim we are agents of neocolonialism and imperialism when the US is attacking trans people and is on the cusp of rolling back gay marriage rights.

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              • queermunist@lemmy.mlQ [email protected]

                I wonder if the West having this new wave of anti-queer reaction will short-circuit this cycle. Hard to claim we are agents of neocolonialism and imperialism when the US is attacking trans people and is on the cusp of rolling back gay marriage rights.

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                Maybe, but they view their religion as native, not foreign. And those have built in homophobia in the doctrine.

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                • internetcitizen2@lemmy.worldI [email protected]

                  Maybe, but they view their religion as native, not foreign. And those have built in homophobia in the doctrine.

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                  Doctrine and religion are always changing based on historical forces, so if the historical winds are blowing against "lgbt=colonialism" then this will have effects on religion and doctrine. The contradiction will need to be resolved somehow.

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                  • queermunist@lemmy.mlQ [email protected]

                    Doctrine and religion are always changing based on historical forces, so if the historical winds are blowing against "lgbt=colonialism" then this will have effects on religion and doctrine. The contradiction will need to be resolved somehow.

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                    I get what your saying, but I'm adding that even independently of that they follow abrahamic religions and that is homophobic. On one hand there is a niew of neo colonialism and on the other you might be asking them to be more secular. Both are very steep and somewhat independent hills.

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                    • abfarid@startrek.websiteA [email protected]

                      Looks pretty disorganized to me as is.

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                      10,000 denominations cannot be wrong

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                      • internetcitizen2@lemmy.worldI [email protected]

                        I get what your saying, but I'm adding that even independently of that they follow abrahamic religions and that is homophobic. On one hand there is a niew of neo colonialism and on the other you might be asking them to be more secular. Both are very steep and somewhat independent hills.

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                        Abrahamic religion isn't set in stone, it's capable of reform and has even done so in other historical contexts. This doesn't even require secularism, all it requires is that they read their books in a different way for different interpretations.

                        But secularism isn't impossible. As the colonizers become less secular and more religious, the historical currents begin to push against religion among the colonized. Perhaps less so among Muslims because they can deflect the contradictions onto sectarianism against the Christian colonizers, but African Christians will have to reconcile the contradiction between their anti-colonialism and worshiping the god of religious colonizers.

                        Or they'll convert to Islam. It's hard to say.

                        But there are lots of ways this can play out.

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                          I want to live in a world where organized religion is no more šŸ˜”

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                          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persecution_of_Christians_in_the_Soviet_Union
                          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cambodian_genocide#Religious_groups

                          It is estimated that up to 50,000 Buddhist monks were massacred by the Khmer Rouge.[165][166]

                          šŸ˜ if only /s

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                          • queermunist@lemmy.mlQ [email protected]

                            Abrahamic religion isn't set in stone, it's capable of reform and has even done so in other historical contexts. This doesn't even require secularism, all it requires is that they read their books in a different way for different interpretations.

                            But secularism isn't impossible. As the colonizers become less secular and more religious, the historical currents begin to push against religion among the colonized. Perhaps less so among Muslims because they can deflect the contradictions onto sectarianism against the Christian colonizers, but African Christians will have to reconcile the contradiction between their anti-colonialism and worshiping the god of religious colonizers.

                            Or they'll convert to Islam. It's hard to say.

                            But there are lots of ways this can play out.

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                            Fair enough. Just that coming from a fundie place I think the cognitive backflips might hold. Tho I hope you're right šŸ™‚

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                            • queermunist@lemmy.mlQ [email protected]

                              Doctrine and religion are always changing based on historical forces, so if the historical winds are blowing against "lgbt=colonialism" then this will have effects on religion and doctrine. The contradiction will need to be resolved somehow.

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                              Contradiction with religious folk is often boiled down to "if I don't believe the contradiction exists then it must not exist!"

                              Source: whenever anyone brings up contradictions in the Bible

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                                "When you've lived a life of privilege, equality feels like oppression"

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                                • indibrony@lemmy.worldI [email protected]

                                  Contradiction with religious folk is often boiled down to "if I don't believe the contradiction exists then it must not exist!"

                                  Source: whenever anyone brings up contradictions in the Bible

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                                  I'm talking about contradictions that can arise between religion and politics.

                                  If their religion says to be charitable to the poor, but their politics say to starve the poor, they'll starve the poor. If their religion says to love their neighbor, but their politics tells them to hate their neighbor, they'll hate their neighbor. When there's a contradiction between religion and politics, they'll choose politics and then work backwards from there to justify it religiously.

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                                    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persecution_of_Christians_in_the_Soviet_Union
                                    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cambodian_genocide#Religious_groups

                                    It is estimated that up to 50,000 Buddhist monks were massacred by the Khmer Rouge.[165][166]

                                    šŸ˜ if only /s

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                                    Ah yes because there is no other possible way to combat organized religion then executions. /s

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                                    • skullgrid@lemmy.worldS [email protected]

                                      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persecution_of_Christians_in_the_Soviet_Union
                                      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cambodian_genocide#Religious_groups

                                      It is estimated that up to 50,000 Buddhist monks were massacred by the Khmer Rouge.[165][166]

                                      šŸ˜ if only /s

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                                      Not existing does not equal murder

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                                        It's not just the white Christians, it's all of them.

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                                          Ah yes because there is no other possible way to combat organized religion then executions. /s

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                                          Well, going from having organized religion to removing it means things have to be done. with this kind of rhetoric, it's violence.

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