This seems applicable to quite a few things
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So you're telling me it didn't completely change society immediately after airing?
wrote last edited by [email protected]Well, not that chocked. Probably not all society was paying attention at the time. Or since.
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Or, you know... the Nazis.
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The only freedom which counts is the freedom to do what some other people think to be wrong. There is no point in demanding freedom to do that which all will applaud. All the so-called liberties or rights are things which have to be asserted against others; who claim that if such things are to be allowed, their own rights are infringed or their own liberties threatened. This is always true, even when we speak of the freedom to worship, of the right of free speech or association, or of public assembly. If we are to allow freedoms at all there will constantly be complaints that either the liberty itself or the way in which it is exercised is being abused, and, if it is a genuine freedom, these complaints will often be justified. There is no way of having a free society in which there is not abuse. Abuse is the very hallmark of liberty.
Lord Hailsham, Lord Chancellor of England
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I just can't even stand the personality of someone who's first fucking instinct when they see violent or sexual media is "If I don't like it no one should be allowed to see it." Fuck off.
The worst are the people who are ok with their kids watching extreme violence or gore, like a SAW movie, but freak the hell out if their kid might see some exposed breasts, let alone a sex scene.
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So you're telling me it didn't completely change society immediately after airing?
wrote last edited by [email protected]I still have that nagging impression that we're going backwards, that we were already further ahead a few years ago than we are now. The 90s and early 00s weren't perfect, but they felt more like good things are possible.
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Isn't that the Bioshocl character
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Isn't that the Bioshocl character
Impossible. The apolitical gem BioShock?
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I still have that nagging impression that we're going backwards, that we were already further ahead a few years ago than we are now. The 90s and early 00s weren't perfect, but they felt more like good things are possible.
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Mike Godwin: “By all means, compare these shitheads to the Nazis”
But also, the qualification of certain types of art as “degenerate” is a symptom of second feature of Ur-Fascism, “traditionalism.”
Traditionalism implies the rejection of modernism. Both Fascists and Nazis worshiped technology, while traditionalist thinkers usually reject it as a negation of traditional spiritual values. However, even though Nazism was proud of its industrial achievements, its praise of modernism was only the surface of an ideology based upon Blood and Earth (Blut und Boden). The rejection of the modern world was disguised as a rebuttal of the capitalistic way of life, but it mainly concerned the rejection of the Spirit of 1789 (and of 1776, of course). The Enlightenment, the Age of Reason, is seen as the beginning of modern depravity. In this sense Ur-Fascism can be defined as irrationalism.
Umberto Eco, Ur-Fascism
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Impossible. The apolitical gem BioShock?
Hey. Don't bring politics into my BioShock.
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itchy and scratchy, the meta cartoon inside the show
Where’s Poochie?
He died on the way back to his home planet.
Sorry you had to find out this way.
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The worst are the people who are ok with their kids watching extreme violence or gore, like a SAW movie, but freak the hell out if their kid might see some exposed breasts, let alone a sex scene.
That's victorian era morals super charged by protestant evangelical puritanism. Kids are perfect innocent angels that become hyper corrupted by the sin of nakedness and the flesh.
The USA never seems to get past this in particular.
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Godwin's Law stopped applying when the internet became overrun with literal Nazis. Don't let them use that shit as cover.
Imagine thinking anyone with a different view than you is a Nazi
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Ah, the 90s, so long ago. I can't believe those ancient, backwards people understood censorship.
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And the horse I rode in on?!?!
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Ah, the 90s, so long ago. I can't believe those ancient, backwards people understood censorship.
Well, civil right were invented in 2000 (shortly after the internet came along) but I guess some people are just ahead of their time.
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1990 was 35 years ago. How exactly do you define "immediate"?
Wow. I just realized how old I am.
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Hey. Don't bring politics into my BioShock.
Relevant Onion article https://theonion.com/you-cant-even-watch-a-movie-anymore-without-seeing-some-theme-explored/
Where did Hollywood go so wrong? I thought movies were supposed to be an escape from reality, a chance to put your worries aside and not have to think about any underlying ideas or concepts. Well, not anymore. Take this Sonic The Hedgehog 3 movie they got out now: I watched it expecting to be dazzled and entertained, and instead I had to sit there as they introduced a big, central theme and then spent nearly two hours exploring the living hell out of it. Who wants that?
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I just can't even stand the personality of someone who's first fucking instinct when they see violent or sexual media is "If I don't like it no one should be allowed to see it." Fuck off.
$0.02: Whenever it's an immediate gut reaction with a disproportionate response like that, it's un-diagnosed trauma; the stimulus is a trigger. Sad part is, "fixing" that involves access to really good healthcare, and a strong will to change one's self in order to not feel like that anymore. What's worse is that, statistically speaking, the abuse is usually perpetrated by someone they know (e.g. family member), which makes it extra hard to accept and overcome.
Meanwhile, we have free support systems (e.g. "religion", TV, Social Media) that encourage and directly exploit mal-adaptive behavior and triggers.
